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tikay
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When does perfect play become cheating?
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October 02, 2019, 11:31:01 AM »
That's the title of Barry Carter (aka Dave Shoelace) latest article on Poker Strategy.
It's been a running story for a week or more now, it's on 2 + 2, & Twitter has been buzzing with it.
Way too much to explain quickly, but a fella on a streamed live cash game in the USA has been getting abnormally good results over a decent period.
Barry's excellent article is as good a brief summary as there is (the Joey Ingram video expose is almost 5 HOURS long), so here it is;
https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/When-does-perfect-play-become-cheating-_109554/
Fascinating stuff.
The theory seems to be that the RFID (card reader) system is being compromised or exploited. Or the geezer is very good, Or very lucky. Take your pick.
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Here's a summary from Joey Ingram;
Mike's 2018 results found so far on stream
+$93.2k
21 sessions
2 losing
$1/3
+$36.12k
52 hrs
13 sessions
0 losing
$5/5
+$56.8k
64 hours
16 sessions
1 losing
$5/5/10
8 hrs
+$300
2 sessions
1 losing
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October 02, 2019, 05:18:00 PM »
100% the guy is cheating
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What's unusual about making $700 per hour in a $1/$3 game over 52 hours?
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October 02, 2019, 05:59:20 PM »
Something similar happened in Glasgow last year for more money and no one cared.
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October 02, 2019, 06:05:00 PM »
https://clips.twitch.tv/JoyousPeppyRadicchioPupper
Could have been better if he’d cheated even more...
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Quote from: tikay on October 02, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
That's the title of Barry Carter (aka Dave Shoelace) latest article on Poker Strategy.
It's been a running story for a week or more now, it's on 2 + 2, & Twitter has been buzzing with it.
Way too much to explain quickly, but a fella on a streamed live cash game in the USA has been getting abnormally good results over a decent period.
Barry's excellent article is as good a brief summary as there is (the Joey Ingram video expose is almost 5 HOURS long), so here it is;
https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/When-does-perfect-play-become-cheating-_109554/
Fascinating stuff.
The theory seems to be that the RFID (card reader) system is being compromised or exploited. Or the geezer is very good, Or very lucky. Take your pick.
Cheers Teeks, I must say this one has been fascinating and very very addictive to follow.
If you check out 2+2 it seems there is now growing evidence for an accomplice behind the scenes, turns out a key member of staff was away for six weeks which coincided with the only six weeks Postle did not play the stream.
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October 02, 2019, 06:16:01 PM »
https://m.twitch.tv/videos/348363451?t=04h10m40s
LOL at the hand @ 4:10 hahaha, maybe he’s just better than everyone else...
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Quote from: DaveShoelace on October 02, 2019, 06:15:08 PM
Quote from: tikay on October 02, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
That's the title of Barry Carter (aka Dave Shoelace) latest article on Poker Strategy.
It's been a running story for a week or more now, it's on 2 + 2, & Twitter has been buzzing with it.
Way too much to explain quickly, but a fella on a streamed live cash game in the USA has been getting abnormally good results over a decent period.
Barry's excellent article is as good a brief summary as there is (the Joey Ingram video expose is almost 5 HOURS long), so here it is;
https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/When-does-perfect-play-become-cheating-_109554/
Fascinating stuff.
The theory seems to be that the RFID (card reader) system is being compromised or exploited. Or the geezer is very good, Or very lucky. Take your pick.
Cheers Teeks, I must say this one has been fascinating and very very addictive to follow.
If you check out 2+2 it seems there is now growing evidence for an accomplice behind the scenes,
turns out a key member of staff was away for six weeks which coincided with the only six weeks Postle did not play the stream.
Hi Barry,
Very nice article.
And yes, one guy went AWOL.....
"Postle quits playing on stream when Justin is in Vegas during the WSOP, but as soon as Justin returns, Postle is back in the game winning more than ever.
Justin said Stones internal investigation showed no cheating and everything is perfectly normal.
Justin, you are busted. But there are others involved. Just wait."
Here's the 2 + 2 thread for anyone with an hour or two to spare. Warning, it's 44 pages & growing by the minute.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/mike-postle-cheating-allegations-1753388/
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ha, read that thread when it was 3 pages and had seen a couple of Joey's tweets. He seems to have more than his fair share of those hands which you pull off once in a lifetime, and very few of those "oh you have quads" hands.
The casino guy seems so suspicious though, you'd think if there was one punter you'd throw under the bus it would be the got the lot guy.
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October 02, 2019, 06:46:59 PM »
I'm not a conspiracy theorist in an 'online poker is rigged' sort of way, but I can't believe that the games are fair considering what's at stake.
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Quote from: Doobs on October 02, 2019, 06:43:34 PM
ha, read that thread when it was 3 pages and had seen a couple of Joey's tweets. He seems to have more than his fair share of those hands which you pull off once in a lifetime, and very few of those "oh you have quads" hands.
The casino guy seems so suspicious though, you'd think if there was one punter you'd throw under the bus it would be the got the lot guy.
If you watch enough of the hands, you can't help but notice that Postle keeps looking down at his lap, where, I assume, he may or could have a 'phone resting. Amazing how often he does it.
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Quote from: tikay on October 02, 2019, 07:08:31 PM
Quote from: Doobs on October 02, 2019, 06:43:34 PM
ha, read that thread when it was 3 pages and had seen a couple of Joey's tweets. He seems to have more than his fair share of those hands which you pull off once in a lifetime, and very few of those "oh you have quads" hands.
The casino guy seems so suspicious though, you'd think if there was one punter you'd throw under the bus it would be the got the lot guy.
If you watch enough of the hands, you can't help but notice that Postle keeps looking down at his lap, where, I assume, he may or could have a 'phone resting. Amazing how often he does it.
before) - the players in the game are all allowed to have their phones out and many are watching the stream (on its ~20 minute delay).
From 2+2
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How to play 9-6;
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.@StonesLivePoker is suspending all broadcast of poker play, including live streaming, while we expand our multifaceted investigation with outside experts.
This investigation will be thorough & detailed. We will report the outcomes when they are available.
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