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I am looking for a couple of people to stake for 45mans on stars (will consider full tilt but would prefer stars). These games are some of the most easy games online to turn a good profit imo.

The Stake

The stakee will be given 100 buyins for the $6.50 45 man turbos on stars so $650 total. The deal will be originally on a 50/50 split of any profits and any profit will be chopped at the end of every calendar month (though we will probs go to the end of Jan to start off with as this is unlikely to get off the ground till mid month). If the stakee does not make any profit in that period, they will go into makeup and will be expected to grind back the loss.

Any fpps accrued during this time I am happy for the stakee to keep.

I will consider staking for $12's if a candidate has a particularly strong record.


What you will get from me?

Apart from my money obv, I am happy to give any advice and review hand histories for the stakee. Most regulars on here will be aware that I grind these games currently, I have made close to 20k playing them in my first 5.5k games and have one of the best roi's of any player playing these games over a decent sample.

I might even listen to your bad beat stories, if you are making both of us a nice profit.


What I want from you?

The biggest single thing is trustworthiness, if there is any doubt in my mind that you are not on the level I will not be staking you. So in your proposal if there is anything that I should know, it is best to be up front about it.

A willingness to learn and improve your game, I am looking for people who are eager to improve and in turn make lots of money.

Ability to put in volume, these games are about volume once you have got the basics down.

A solid past record, obviously I am after winning poker players. I will look at all proposals, so if you are break even or a slight loser I will still consider you.


Proposal

If you are interested please pm a proposal outlining why you feel you would be a good stakee. I am a bit of a nit about bad proposals so will definitely value someone who puts time and effort into theirs.

In the proposal if you could include links to sharkscope, opr or hem/pt databases.

If you are not known to me (ie someone with less that 500 posts on blonde) a reference or 2 from someone in the poker community who is known would be very advantageous.

A rough estimate of how much volume you can expect to put in on a monthly basis, how many tables you play, have you used sngwiz or tracking software before.

Why you want to be staked and anything else you think would be useful.


Ok any questions just fire away on here, I will keep this open for about a week and will reply to everyone who pm's me a proposal.

Good luck with this Longy :)

I'll be looking to start something like this, but at the mo, I don't have the time to commit.

Hope you get 2 damn good horses.

Nice idea mate, hope you get a nice stable together GL with this

i would be very interested in this oppurtunity i dont use sharkscope tbh but asked a friend to have a look at mine and as he is a subsciber although it shows a - in profit he said it actually shows + profit in nlhe...the - is the losses at plo...i could play anyday of the week and at any time as i  dont work...i do not use pokersoftware but would invest in it if givin the oppurtunity to play for u...any questions just ask   

thanks jason

[ ]  This is exactly the kind of proposal Longy is looking for.

****restraining myself from making world's most obvious joke****

PM sent.

The two people above would be ideal candidates imo.

ahaha just seen this after my last post gatso, assuming same thing obv

yeah but tbf you did it a lot better than I would have so I'm glad I restrained myself

I will reply by pm, though suffice it to say I am looking for something a bit more structured and detailed than this.


Got it Paul, will reply later on by pm.

Good luck with this Longy, hope it works out well.

Girgys the man for the job that guy knows how to grind!

Pick me, my mate says I'm good and I always make the last 16 in my pub league, I don't bother with sharkscope because all that ICM bollocks is rigged, but I have read nearly all the Deans strategy articles and watch Sky Poker every day, I am quite high volume, I played 16 sngs already this week, also I know James Atkin.

Just ask Fergus or the Kellster for my references, if you send me £50 I promise I can double it.

Lets gogogo!!!

Lol@dave I also hear your good mates with AdamG

Is he the one who got dragged out of a casino by his mum? But yeah he can vouch for me too, lets make mad dimez $$$$$

didnt want to write too much as i knew some idiots would wanna make a wise crack longy i will pm u

Ty for your application Barry, really solid.

Just one thing "break even since 2008", I would like to make some money you know. ;)

Thats just racist against non winning players

Now that I have sent the thread in the wrong direction, I should add that this is very shrewd stakeage from Longy, the multi table SNGs are probably the most profitable out there at the moment and I think Longy would be a shit hot coach. I reckon even if you dont need a bankroll providing it might be worth it for the coaching you would get.

and you couldn't have PMd in the first place? 

+1

I'm even considering it!

a question out of interest, what would a good winning player expect to return on these per hour? After 50/50 split i imagine it would turn out to be a fairly poultry sum per hour? i might be completely wrong though.

$1.50+ per game is achievable at $6.50s. No reason playing 20 an hour isn't possible.

I was going to ask how many you reckon you can have running regularly. What is the best time frames for these games?

20 an hour is good going if your getting in the cash in most of your games, what's 1st prize in a 45 man $6 sng

Hard to say. Playing just $6.50s and $12 45s I can keep 20 tabs open pretty easily from 2pm UK time onwards.

 ;hattip;

So if running great you can earn about $15 per hour. i suppose you can't put a price on the educational value.

Def agree with the second part, but you don't have to run great to hit that winrate.

Initially that will be a 50/50 split on profits for the 6.50's, once a stakee has proven themselves to be a solid winner there is room for the stakee to move up to the 12's or command a higher % cut of the profits.

Right gotta go, sync break over.

Regarding hourly rates and all that yeah, I am not claiming you will be making a fortune. Though in reality less than 5% of people playing poker are making over $10 an hour long term at a guess.

Hopefully the horses that I get will realise this is an investment in the future, as once you have the skills down there is no reason why you can't go on to make a decent amount of money down the line.

Very much this. I think a 50-50 split + coaching is a superb deal for people that are into SNGs.

Proposal sent.

All the best with this.

Quality banter in parts in some of the replies, particularly lol'd at the Shoelace longy part, especially after the err 'brief' proposal put forward earlier in the post.

On a more serious note, this is a shit hot offer on the table in terms of the coaching/support being made available. Whoever ends up as the 2 horses will be very lucky indeed.

Would love to send a proposal for this but doubt I get the volume in needed for it

Good luck with it Longy/ horses

plz take on muzles, it would make the tread dynamite for months to come.

what do you mean by that?

Good luck to Longy and the folk he gets to run.

May you run good on the most part, and watch out for the factors.

Right everyone should have a reply by pm so far, if not let me know. The deadline isn't till next Tuesday so keep em coming.

What is wrong with staking to grind 12-27 mans? Gives the bonus of the BOP pay outs weekly too!

A couple of reasons, firstly they are games I have never played. Therefore my knowledge would be fuzzy in a lot of ICM related spots. If I am going to coach someone, I want to know what I am telling them is solid advice.

Secondly these games aren't as profitable as 45 mans, expected roi's are lower and compensation from bop is minimal. As with a lot of poker promos it is simply a fish attractor apart from the high buyins where the player pool is small.

If I decide to stake other games, I will stake for 180 mans.

just spent ages typin out a proposal and my comp went tits up lol gg me

pm sent

will you do coaching for other ppl?? or just your horses?

Got it Dunk, will reply late.


I have given this some thought and at this stage I am going to keep it to my horses initially.

You get my PM, am i in?

Ofc Flushy, you are going to have to start at the 1.10's though. As I hear you are having problems winning tourneys at the moment.

Anybody wanting to be considered for this , needs to pm me a proposal by the end of today.

ideal for me if i wasnt busy 24hrs a day.

What min volume do you expect from your horses?

Around 500 tourneys a month, would be what I was looking for.

Seems reasonable. Even for working folks.

roughly 16hrs a week if ten tablin by my calculations

whens the big announcement? 

are you going to make the horses have a thread so we can all enjoy the ride like when flushy started up wth Rookie?

link please

fyp

That will totally be up to the horses, I personally am happy for this to happen. I am not going to pressurise someone into going public about their results.

I will be choosing the horses by the end of the week, after I have made sure that I have done all my background checks etc.

Less than that, assuming you putting in sessions longer than a couple hours at a time. It will be closer to 12 hours a week.

i worked it out doing it in batches of 10s obv not as long if you keep regging as you bust out

fair enough, i hope they do update as i love a good progress thread!

Only 12 hours, sooo tempted to send a proposal. Though I think many more people would get far more than 500 games in.


Longy, I think you could probably end up making more per hour going down the coaching line

its wednesday now! what are the results!

Wednesday sure is the end of the week!

Lol patience is a virtue, I guarentee this will be sorted by Friday. You will know by pm before anything happens on here.

Do they need police checks?

2 references from previous employers?

Private detectives?

Pls tell us what the background checks involve la la la la longy

http://forum.parttimepoker.com/showthread.php?p=2096600#post2096600

Stuff like this, he applied. A bit like the x-factor he has been kicked off in the 1st week.

How many proposals have you recieved?
If you dont mind me asking

13

Obv not counting mine

ok cool

FYP

lol Baz so true.

Yours was an even more thinly veiled re-bump whilst mine, in my usual style, is a more Blatant, hurry the fk up Longy and tell us who they are.

Ok the 2 horses have been chosen, it is completely up to them if they want to reveal their identity.

Thank you to everyone who applied, the general standard of the application was good and I put quite bit of time deciding who were the right 2 horses for me.

Everyone who applied should have a pm, letting them know if they were chosen or not.

I am pleased to be able to tell the blonde community that I, Rupinder Bedi, Lord of Whingedom, am a Longy Horse. Reasons for this:

1) I am busto

Well that's it really. I would like to thank Longy for getting me out of it. I shall be keeping you updated via this thread. Let the grind of my fucking life fun begin!

I didn't make it :( but good luck to both of longys horse

Well done and good luck with it Lads!

Good luck with this George and good choice Longy.

My other horse would like to identify himself but he can't post on here as he doesn't have 300 posts, which is pretty com. Anybody like to guess who it is?

Actually scrap that it's a crap game and no one will guess it

My second horse is Roscopiko.

is it roscopiko?

Yes good guess Gatso, what gave it away?

good luck Longys horses.

mev, glgl Longy and horse, win it all.

if the applications were good Longy, did you consider taking on 3+?

I got a list of all the people on blonde and crossed out all the ones who are rubbish at poker and ended up with roscopiko and rupinder who is just really unlucky

good luck to both horses

I considered it and will consider expanding the stable in future. I just wanted to keep it to 2, to start off with. So I didn't put too much on my plate, as I like an easy life and want to concentrate on getting it right with these 2 first.

http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-forums/7/6-45-man-hh-4979068

views Longy?

Looks pretty standard to me, sngwiz seems to suggest playing too tight on final tables for my liking. It total disregards chip utility and what gaining big chips on a final allows you to do.

gg me lol best of luck 2 u both

When/have they started this yet longy?

Quiet start tonight before I try and put in some volume in before the end of the week. First coaching session from Longy 2moz.

Played 5
Cashed 2
Won 1
Lost 3

Profit: 69.50$

GL maintaining $13 a game ;)

Longy will fill his head with bad shit and ruin the win rate

Chop it up now imo.

14 games tonight. 6 tabling. Ran pretty shit deep. 6 10th place finishes and one 7th.

Played 20
Cahed 3
Won 1
Lost 17


Running total: -$8.50

I can't see how this is deal gonna benefit the backer or the stakee financially tbh. I have played quite a few $26 45 manners and the very best players in them games can only expect to make between $3-8 bucks per game in the long tem. Don't mean too sound harsh but this will be a massive grind in the 6 doll games, its a massive grind in the 26 buck games so i reckon you will want to kill yourself after playing a few hundred games at this level.

Sup fish.

People are making 1000's in these games each month and are not desperately great at poker. I am not simply offering a stake, I am offering coaching to get people to beat these games for as much as possible. It is investment in the future, if anyone is getting the bad end of the deal it is me.

These players play 100+ games a day they don't they. fk knows how you do it. How much $ per game can the average/decent fish make in these games?? $1-3?? Thats an incred grind day in day out

Having played 14 today I agree it's gonna be a grind but as Longy said I'm looking as this as an future investment not just a money making opp for now. I'm aiming to play between 35-50 and yes I do believe I will want to kill myself by month end. But no more than usual playing the pokers

I have played 6k games on stars and made $20k roughly so just over 3 a game, think my avg buyin is about $15. To give you an idea of what is possible and a bit of a brag.

Thats wat i mean 3 bucks per game and ur av stake is $15, wheres the stakee's are starting at $6. 6000 games seems like shit loads aswell, how long did that take? I understand what ur saying its a long term investment etc but i would bet money on most people struggling to do well. Not cause they cant beat the game but because they will not be able to grind the redic amount of games to sustain a decent winrate to make it worth while

6000 games in about 4 months, started playing them seriously in September. Played about 360 hours in that time, so that is less than a 100 hrs a month.

If they can't put the hours into this, they can't put the hours into anything else. I doubt you can find many games at the internet where you can sustain a decent hourly, with so little effort.

Amatay, Longy could easily get away with charging $50+ an hour for the coaching he is providing with his record.

If I hadn't got involved with a coaching site recently I would have tried to make some kinda deal with Longy, to plug my leaks and such, and I'm beating the games well.

In our prop bet in November me and Longy both had a $60 per hour winrate. Longy's average buy-in was $13, mine was $10. Personally I think that's a very appealing prospect, and as such his proposal is certainly sufficiently generous.

not saying its not generous James. My point is that you and Longy are two of the better players around in these games added to the fact that you play 1000000 (approx) games a day to sustain this winrate. Plus u did it at higher buyins than 6 bucks per game. I know this is the starting point etc but i now what a redic grind this could be and after a few 1000 games i wouldnt mind betting money on most stakee's finding this less n less appealing. I honestly hope i am wrong, gl anyways

I think longy will set his horses targets to reach each month for motivation, obviously the best one being moved up the stakes.
But he can use other incentives such as $55 one off stakings etc

Fair enough mate, it's def a grind, but I think it's a worthwhile one...

Another 6 games. 2 more 10ths. 1 cash for 24 bucks

Played 25
Cashed 4
Won 1

Loss: 23.50$

How many tables are you playing at a time?
how long are your sessions?

let him muster up a bit of a sample size and routine first Paul

I wanna see how much he is doing at the start because I am gonna start doing this too

Just 6 tabling at the mo cos tiling but just had first coaching session with Longy and gonna try stacking them. Once I feel comfortable I'll start increasing the number of games I'm playing.

Longy showed me how to configure table ninja and how to use sit n go wiz which is pretty cool.

I'm aiming to play around 18-20 games a day initially but will see how it goes obv. With Xmas coming up the volume I can put in with 4 kids is limited to say the least!

The more tables you can play simultaneously the better imo.

Main reason - You don't get to see your bad beats. Just make the play then move on.

You need to be really careful of tilt in these comps George. You just have to switch off from it because you are going to get a lot of bad beats.

Playing on a stake has helped me with this because technically it's not my money. Weeeeeeeeeee

I think you've already put in enough volume !!

Sandy

Another 8 games tonight. Running pretty shitty on finals at the mo.

Played 33
Cashed 7
Won 1

Profit 26.50.

So true,also obv longy would've said this but stacking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tiling tables.

I've moved from 9 to 14 tabling withing 2 weeks due to using tableninja and the fact stacking makes it so easy and am still totally comfortable.glgl

Played 41
Cashed 8
Won 1

Profit -1.50

Am 8 tabling now and with the aid of table ninja finding it quite easy. However I'm running pretty shit still. 2 8th place finishes. Losing flips etc etc doesn't help but I'm sure if I continue to put in the volume the variance will sort itself out. Hopefully will have a look through a few hands with Longy too at some point this week to ensure I'm not doing anything wrong. Played another 21 games with one 4th place cash (exit hand KK vs A6!)

Played 62
Cashed 9
Won 1

-$108

 :o

Are you ok?

;D

I'm still reeling tbh. I had 6 big blinds. Dunno how he can call with A6 there.....

If we had 34o what we would be our play, Tank?

A wee we?

Another small session during holiday season and all in all a more profitable 11 game session

Played 52
Cashed 13
Won 3

Profit 78.50$

Another 19 games. No cashes. 3 finals. Frustrating session. Pretty card dead despite 8 tabling.

played 71
Cashed 13
Won 3

Profic -33$

Can even help the minio moan can we bud?

And u can't help but rub me down on every thread  :(

Too much fun

Particulalry liked the Pab quote last night :)

13 more. No cashes and only one final. Gonna look thru some hands with Longy on Monday. I'm still running pretty tez (yes a mini whinge Blatch)

Played 84
Cashed 13
Won 3

Profit -116$

And another 13:

Played 97
Cashed 17
Won 3

Profit: -68.50$

Just had a Skype sweat session with Longy:

[X] PLayed 2 sit and go's
[X] Won 1
[X] Won 11/12 showdowns

In future I will be skyping Longy from every tournament I play.

Played 99
Cashed 18
Won 4

Profit: $2.50

mbsfn to win a showdown.
hopefully your turning it around now George

hows the other guy getting on ??

Stop counting  ;grr;

tbh it was an estimate. We didn't lose a single showdown until heads up

Played 122
Cashed 22
Won 4

Profit: 21$

Played 144
Cashed 27
Profit: 100$

mbn

mbvn

fml tonight when deep, just mfl

Played 165
Cashed 32
Won 6
Profit 122$

Played 196
Cashed 40
Won 6
Profit 72$

Frustrating session today. I had planned to put in a few hours but ran pretty shitty and started to make some bad decision so have decided to leave it to the weekend. Planning a couple of decent sized sessions to round off the month then will be discussing Feb with Longy. Will be aiming to play circa 500 games per month from Feb onward.

I am looking to take on one more person for next month, if you applied last time and you are still interested just pm me, no need for another proposal.

If you didn't apply last time, please read the op again for what I am looking for.

He's getting on pretty good from his account

Me and my friend want to apply Longy.

I'll post our joint proposal below.

.

Good sample size there!

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Loooooooooool

Im still pretty sure Ive never played an s'n'gay on tilt!

Lol how many different brags can you make about your sharkscope, Cos?

Plenty more! He is a little boring when it comes to pokerz!

What can I say? I LOVE THE POKERZ

Had a few pm's already this will be left open for applications till Thursday. In an ideal I would sort it out quicker than that but I am on holiday all this midweek.

Back from holiday now, so I won't be taking any more applications at this point. Those who have applied I will sift through them and reply with questions if needs be and we should have a decision by the end of the weekend.

Ok decision made, Horse on board. Everyone who applied should have a pm.

gl!

I would like to be the first to wish Flushy good luck with this opportunity.

+1

This is a sick opportunity for anyone.

All you need to do is teach yourself how to mass multi table and then Longy will take care of the rest

gl horneris!

Thanks Rooks, but as we both know, in our game, its not about Luck.

All the luck in the world isn't gonna change things for these guys.
They're simply overmatched.
They wear their tells like signs around their necks.
Facial tics, nervous fingers.
A hand over a mouth.
The way a cigarette is smoked.
Little unconscious gestures that reveal the cards in their hands.
We catch everything.
If a fish acts strong, he's bluffing.
If he acts meek, he's got a hand. It's that simple.

fyp

Thanks Rooks, but as we both know, in our game, its not about Luck.

All the luck in the world isn't gonna change things for these guys.
They're simply overmatched.
They wear their tells like signs around their necks.
Facial tics, nervous fingers.
A hand over a mouth.
The way a cigarette is smoked.
Little unconscious gestures that reveal the cards in their hands.
We catch everything.
If a fish acts strong, he's bluffing.
If he acts meek, he's got a hand. It's that simple.

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