Looks like the big Ipoker shake up is happening

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http://pokerupdate.com/news/networks-and-rooms/new-ipoker-network-policy-to-see-division-of-network/

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Can any site maintain generating 850 new players a month.

[redarmi]

Guessing this is pretty awful for Blackbelt which seems a massive shame.  LOL @ them describing their criteria as 'quality standards'

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Guessing this is pretty awful for Blackbelt which seems a massive shame.  LOL @ them describing their criteria as 'quality standards'

Major problems for loads of popular sites in this country. What about encore/genting also as a lot of uk players have them as their site of choice. It had been in the pipeline for sometime and I just hope Neil, Karl , Paul et al have plans in place. They work far to hard to have their business affected by a decision that they probably had little say in.

[atdc21]

will the secondary site have a smaller rig?

[DMorgan]

Surely this is just a slightly more PR-friendly way of saying that they made a mistake allowing so many skins to join the network.

None of ipokers big rakers are going to want to go anywhere near the 'sub network' so surely the two-tier system can't survive long term and it's instead an interim solution with the end goal being one network where all of the skins can support themselves and pay their way

[jack2off]

I do some work for Oneway Poker. Fortunately enough for us we are in bed with BlueSq so looks like we will be ok (famous last words). However, we were told several months ago (non official from an insider) that basically the big guns are fed up of spending all the money on marketing etc for the smaller players to get the rake on their skins!!

Not great news for a lot of ipoker skins at all!

[AlunB]

£1.3 million in online poker revenue during 2011 for Rank, so I wouldn't count your chickens.

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£1.3 million in online poker revenue during 2011 for Rank, so I wouldn't count your chickens.

Given the sheer enormous scale & size of Rank, poker cannot be anything but a distraction & a waste of valuable management resource, £1.3 mill is of no import whatsoever, especially as it has no scope to improve by much, if any. 

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From what I know, only 2nd hand info but it's 4 companies moving and genting isn't one of them which amazes me

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Yeah blackbelt poker piggyback (I am pretty clueless so might not be the right term) off boyles but it's good to read from a Tikay post that Neil is ahead of the game. I have accounts with many ipoker sites,after blackbelt, paddy power and chilli are my favs but reading various articles only a few will be in the elite bracket. I understand these include Titan, William hills, bet365.

Just readthegenting comment.  There must be massive implications for Brs guys too

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£1.3 million in online poker revenue during 2011 for Rank, so I wouldn't count your chickens.

Given the sheer enormous scale & size of Rank, poker cannot be anything but a distraction & a waste of valuable management resource, £1.3 mill is of no import whatsoever, especially as it has no scope to improve by much, if any. 

Spot on!!

[AlunB]

£1.3 million in online poker revenue during 2011 for Rank, so I wouldn't count your chickens.

Given the sheer enormous scale & size of Rank, poker cannot be anything but a distraction & a waste of valuable management resource, £1.3 mill is of no import whatsoever, especially as it has no scope to improve by much, if any. 

Don't want to derail the thread, but pretty sure there is plenty of scope to improve. They did £12m in the live rooms during the same period...

[pleno1]

meh i dunno what to think about it to be honest. For lots of reasons many iPoker skins should be kicked out etc but this won't happen, instead iPoker2 will squeeze them out as their vip players wont have good tables anymore (all fish from sportsbooks on iPoker2)

if this is the case iPoker1 skins could potentially go busto and then the transition of these people who will blame iPoker1 (even if its not warranted) will be stopped as they will lose all brand loyalty.

The "team" of iPoker2 scares me, WH, paddy etc etc I'm not sure if these guys are even interested in improving their poker model. Initially they didn't want to have poker and only allowed it to cater for the big sports betters who were interested and after alot moved over to betfair to bet/play poker on same wallet many of the new skins shit themselves.

iPoker2 with good regulations and rules sounds great but it shouldn't be capped at skins that will have alot of players, skins such as genting/poker encore should definitely be put in as not only do they bring a good mixture of recreational/depositing and winning players but they also are very forward thinking and always trying to improve (something which cannot be said for the skins who are currently in the loop for moving across) this also extends to Blackbelt and neither should be punished or branded similarly to some of the skins whose entire business model is revolved around canabalizing traffic and offering high rakeback deals and good VIP service.

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Yeah blackbelt poker piggyback (I am pretty clueless so might not be the right term) off boyles but it's good to read from a Tikay post that Neil is ahead of the game. I have accounts with many ipoker sites,after blackbelt, paddy power and chilli are my favs but reading various articles only a few will be in the elite bracket. I understand these include Titan, William hills, bet365.

Just readthegenting comment.  There must be massive implications for Brs guys too

Several months ago I was told Paddy Power, Blue Sq, Titan and another, PP did not want boyles in as they're Irish rivals!