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September 15, 2009, 12:19:21 PM »
Quote from: AndrewT on September 15, 2009, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on September 15, 2009, 11:26:04 AM
Most people who are perceived as or labled "Gypsy" by the general public are not in fact Gypsies. Mostly. the general public have no idea what Gypsies are.
BTW- I know this is a small thing, but it's important. When you write the word "Gypsy" please use an uppercase "G" as in "GreekStein"
But surely, if Gypsy is a term used for a very particular set of people, but the same word is also used to refer to a more general group of people, then gypsy with a small g is a valid term for this second group, as they are different from Gypsies?
Kind of like Liberals and liberals.
Interesting point.
I think though that the second group are a completely different set of people who are incorrectly described as Gypsies. The description is still the ethnic group Gypsy, the fact that it is an incorrect description doesn't justify the use of a lower case 'g'.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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September 15, 2009, 12:22:25 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on September 15, 2009, 12:19:21 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on September 15, 2009, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on September 15, 2009, 11:26:04 AM
Most people who are perceived as or labled "Gypsy" by the general public are not in fact Gypsies. Mostly. the general public have no idea what Gypsies are.
BTW- I know this is a small thing, but it's important. When you write the word "Gypsy" please use an uppercase "G" as in "GreekStein"
But surely, if Gypsy is a term used for a very particular set of people, but the same word is also used to refer to a more general group of people, then gypsy with a small g is a valid term for this second group, as they are different from Gypsies?
Kind of like Liberals and liberals.
Interesting point.
I think though that the second group are a completely different set of people who are incorrectly described as Gypsies. The description is still the ethnic group Gypsy, the fact that it is an incorrect description doesn't justify the use of a lower case 'g'.
Yeah, the confusion comes because the second word shouldn't be Gypsy/gypsy at all, but something else. However, the fact is that the word is used in this instance.
I'm sure there is a better parallel than Liberal/liberal but I can't think of one right now.
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Quote from: AndrewT on September 15, 2009, 12:22:25 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on September 15, 2009, 12:19:21 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on September 15, 2009, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on September 15, 2009, 11:26:04 AM
Most people who are perceived as or labled "Gypsy" by the general public are not in fact Gypsies. Mostly. the general public have no idea what Gypsies are.
BTW- I know this is a small thing, but it's important. When you write the word "Gypsy" please use an uppercase "G" as in "GreekStein"
But surely, if Gypsy is a term used for a very particular set of people, but the same word is also used to refer to a more general group of people, then gypsy with a small g is a valid term for this second group, as they are different from Gypsies?
Kind of like Liberals and liberals.
Interesting point.
I think though that the second group are a completely different set of people who are incorrectly described as Gypsies. The description is still the ethnic group Gypsy, the fact that it is an incorrect description doesn't justify the use of a lower case 'g'.
Yeah, the confusion comes because the second word shouldn't be Gypsy/gypsy at all, but something else. However, the fact is that the word is used in this instance.
I'm sure there is a better parallel than Liberal/liberal but I can't think of one right now.
Have you thought of one yet?
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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September 15, 2009, 12:40:38 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on September 15, 2009, 12:33:33 AM
I do so love sight hounds. Especially lurchers with a little bull blood in them... or Bedlington x whippets... or saluki x collie x greyhound....
Great whippet pic btw. My dad has a terrific little whippet named Pal.
He was as nesh as a newborn baby and an inveterate thief, but
he could do a score of coney on the lamp without breaking a sweat
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Can you tell us more about the part I have italicised, & explain what the enboldened part means, please.
A score of coney on the lamp? Quite so.
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September 15, 2009, 09:42:39 PM »
Quote from: tikay on September 15, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on September 15, 2009, 12:33:33 AM
I do so love sight hounds. Especially lurchers with a little bull blood in them... or Bedlington x whippets... or saluki x collie x greyhound....
Great whippet pic btw. My dad has a terrific little whippet named Pal.
He was as nesh as a newborn baby and an inveterate thief, but
he could do a score of coney on the lamp without breaking a sweat
.
Can you tell us more about the part I have italicised, & explain what the enboldened part means, please.
A score of coney on the lamp? Quite so.
A score is 20. Coney is rabbit. Lamp I am stuck with. I'd guess a field.
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Quote from: RichEO on September 15, 2009, 09:42:39 PM
Quote from: tikay on September 15, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on September 15, 2009, 12:33:33 AM
I do so love sight hounds. Especially lurchers with a little bull blood in them... or Bedlington x whippets... or saluki x collie x greyhound....
Great whippet pic btw. My dad has a terrific little whippet named Pal.
He was as nesh as a newborn baby and an inveterate thief, but
he could do a score of coney on the lamp without breaking a sweat
.
Can you tell us more about the part I have italicised, & explain what the enboldened part means, please.
A score of coney on the lamp? Quite so.
A score is 20. Coney is rabbit. Lamp I am stuck with. I'd guess a field.
I think lamp means lamp, more or less
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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September 15, 2009, 10:01:20 PM »
Quote from: tikay on September 15, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on September 15, 2009, 12:33:33 AM
I do so love sight hounds. Especially lurchers with a little bull blood in them... or Bedlington x whippets... or saluki x collie x greyhound....
Great whippet pic btw. My dad has a terrific little whippet named Pal.
He was as nesh as a newborn baby and an inveterate thief, but
he could do a score of coney on the lamp without breaking a sweat
.
Can you tell us more about the part I have italicised, & explain what the enboldened part means, please.
A score of coney on the lamp? Quite so.
Lamping - Hunting rabbits at night with dogs (or guns) and a lamp - eg.
http://www.thehuntinglife.com/html/sections/articles/runningdogs_hounds/its-good-to-get-back.html
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City boys lol.
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Quote from: RioRodent on September 15, 2009, 10:01:20 PM
Quote from: tikay on September 15, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on September 15, 2009, 12:33:33 AM
I do so love sight hounds. Especially lurchers with a little bull blood in them... or Bedlington x whippets... or saluki x collie x greyhound....
Great whippet pic btw. My dad has a terrific little whippet named Pal.
He was as nesh as a newborn baby and an inveterate thief, but
he could do a score of coney on the lamp without breaking a sweat
.
Can you tell us more about the part I have italicised, & explain what the enboldened part means, please.
A score of coney on the lamp? Quite so.
Lamping - Hunting rabbits at night with dogs (or guns) and a lamp - eg.
http://www.thehuntinglife.com/html/sections/articles/runningdogs_hounds/its-good-to-get-back.html
Now it all makes sense, thank you.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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September 16, 2009, 09:39:57 AM »
Quote from: tikay on September 15, 2009, 10:04:30 PM
Quote from: RioRodent on September 15, 2009, 10:01:20 PM
Quote from: tikay on September 15, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on September 15, 2009, 12:33:33 AM
I do so love sight hounds. Especially lurchers with a little bull blood in them... or Bedlington x whippets... or saluki x collie x greyhound....
Great whippet pic btw. My dad has a terrific little whippet named Pal.
He was as nesh as a newborn baby and an inveterate thief, but
he could do a score of coney on the lamp without breaking a sweat
.
Can you tell us more about the part I have italicised, & explain what the enboldened part means, please.
A score of coney on the lamp? Quite so.
Lamping - Hunting rabbits at night with dogs (or guns) and a lamp - eg.
http://www.thehuntinglife.com/html/sections/articles/runningdogs_hounds/its-good-to-get-back.html
Now it all makes sense, thank you.
I know a couple of guys who lamp deer as well, you should see the lurchers they've got for that, I think they're deerhound/greyhound/crocodile crosses
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Quote from: Jon MW on September 15, 2009, 09:53:38 PM
Quote from: RichEO on September 15, 2009, 09:42:39 PM
Quote from: tikay on September 15, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on September 15, 2009, 12:33:33 AM
I do so love sight hounds. Especially lurchers with a little bull blood in them... or Bedlington x whippets... or saluki x collie x greyhound....
Great whippet pic btw. My dad has a terrific little whippet named Pal.
He was as nesh as a newborn baby and an inveterate thief, but
he could do a score of coney on the lamp without breaking a sweat
.
Can you tell us more about the part I have italicised, & explain what the enboldened part means, please.
A score of coney on the lamp? Quite so.
I love lamp.
A score is 20. Coney is rabbit. Lamp I am stuck with. I'd guess a field.
I think lamp means lamp, more or less
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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September 17, 2009, 10:26:59 AM »
Quote from: tikay on September 15, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on September 15, 2009, 12:33:33 AM
I do so love sight hounds. Especially lurchers with a little bull blood in them... or Bedlington x whippets... or saluki x collie x greyhound....
Great whippet pic btw. My dad has a terrific little whippet named Pal.
He was as nesh as a newborn baby and an inveterate thief, but
he could do a score of coney on the lamp without breaking a sweat
.
Can you tell us more about the part I have italicised, & explain what the enboldened part means, please.
A score of coney on the lamp? Quite so.
So that's all the enboldebed bits explained, except for the bit about not breaking a sweat.
Dogs don't actually sweat, (Apart from via a few glands on the pads of their feet, but that's more about traction than cooling)
Dogs regulate their body temperature by panting. The act of breathing in and out quickly with their tongue lolling cools the core of the dogs body much quicker than sweating through the skin. Sweating only cools the body surface, and it wastes a lot of precious fluids causing rapid dehydration.
Dogs also have special blood vessels in the roof of their mouth which allows the blood going to the brain to be given priory cooling when the dog is hot.
So, you will never see a dog sweating like a pig, (but then again, you will never see a pig sweating either).
Horses, on the other hand, are a different kettle of fish.
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September 17, 2009, 10:38:00 AM »
What about the word "nesh"?
That must be regional midlands, as its a new one on me.
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Quote from: TightEnd on September 17, 2009, 10:38:00 AM
What about the word "nesh"?
That must be regional midlands, as its a new one on me.
Here you go Rich.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nesh
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My Mum took our little Jack Russell to the vets a month or so back, as she had noticed that she was panting almost constantly, even outside in cold-ish weather, something she hasnt previously done.
The vet said panting is also a way for dogs to cope with pain, they use it as a relief, as she has developed arthritis.
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