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« on: June 17, 2012, 05:23:57 PM »

Opening a lot of hands PRE

My mistake? Is it my FLOP Call?

PokerStars Hand #82078815599: Tournament #577010327, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2012/06/17 17:18:53 WET [2012/06/17 12:18:53 ET]
Table '577010327 147' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mcatdog (3230 in chips)
Seat 2: glu77ps (7437 in chips)
Seat 3: Saywatagain! (3548 in chips)
Seat 4: drive20555 (8160 in chips)
Seat 5: APPW (14680 in chips)
Seat 6: Coyotee_gyn (8360 in chips)
Seat 7: LevotonKala (16250 in chips)
Seat 8: GALAOBHZ (2930 in chips)
Seat 9: brt01 (6577 in chips)
Coyotee_gyn: posts small blind 100
LevotonKala: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to APPW [ ]
GALAOBHZ: folds
brt01: folds
mcatdog: folds
glu77ps: folds
Saywatagain!: folds
drive20555: folds
APPW: raises 200 to 400
Coyotee_gyn: raises 585 to 985
LevotonKala: folds
APPW: calls 585
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Coyotee_gyn: bets 651
APPW: calls 651
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Coyotee_gyn: bets 2604
APPW: calls 2604
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
Coyotee_gyn: bets 4120 and is all-in
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2012, 05:47:30 PM »

Fold Pre, as played call flop, shove or fold turn, calling is nut worst option.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2012, 05:49:13 PM »

surely just fold pre, or 4b? Don't mind flop call, raising is ok I suppose but raise calling alot of our stack on a draw that may only have 6 outs seems bad. 

I'm folding the turn now. Getting the wrong odds, and seems unlikely that he's FOS, how many people really barrel flop and turn with total air at this level?  You've got a big stack, so don't waste it spewing off.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 06:02:00 PM »

Fold Pre - Assume after he has raised me as I am on button (not folding a lot pre on button?)
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2012, 06:25:45 PM »

yeah fold to the 3bet its a standard open with your stack sizes.  I would defo fold turn as well, just realised how huge his bet is.
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 07:48:56 PM »

Reads? Great spot to make it 2k pre and put him essentially at a decision for all his chips, totally depends on the dynamics though.

Fold turn as played.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2012, 08:24:00 PM »

Fold to 3 bet for me

I prob raise flop myself, as played dont like calling flop and turn, prefer fold on turn as played
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2012, 09:34:36 PM »

ye preflop pretty bad if you think he's light then it's a decent hand to 4 bet but you should probably just fold most of the time. i'd just check raise/call off on the flop - although it's a flop he should prob cbet less as it hits your range decently your equity is always gonna be decent when you get stacks in and there's a lot of value in the times he folds when you check raise.
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