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muckthenuts
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Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 01, 2012, 09:14:37 PM »
Early in the daily $162, half the table is limping liberally. Villain has done a lot so far and i've assumed by this point he's bad.
Our equity should be really decent til the river but the run out definitely isn't great. Any thoughts on my betsizing and checking turn/giving up the river?
Poker Stars $150+$12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players -
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MP1: t5370 179 BBs
MP2: t2876 95.87 BBs
CO: t3049 101.63 BBs
BTN: t6910 230.33 BBs
SB: t2760 92 BBs
Hero (BB): t3220 107.33 BBs
UTG: t3345 111.50 BBs
UTG+1: t3235 107.83 BBs
UTG+2: t2940 98 BBs
Pre Flop:
(t45) Hero is BB with
1 fold
, UTG+1 calls t30, UTG+2 calls t30, MP1 calls t30,
2 folds
, BTN calls t30,
1 fold
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Hero raises to t222
, UTG+1 calls t192, UTG+2 calls t192,
2 folds
Flop:
(t741)
:
(3 players)
Hero bets t479
, UTG+1 calls t479, UTG+2 folds
Turn:
(t1699)
(2 players)
Hero bets t777
, UTG+1 calls t777
River:
(t3253)
(2 players)
Hero bets t1742 all in, UTG+1 folds
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 01, 2012, 09:29:14 PM »
Well played. I like the sizing. If anything maybe slightly smaller on turn just to make the river shove that much harder to call from villain.
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 01, 2012, 09:54:13 PM »
Villain makes this look better than it is im afriad - he should never be folding with such a small bet to pot ratio
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 02, 2012, 12:56:31 AM »
Agree, I'd defo give up this.
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 02, 2012, 01:05:42 AM »
Wait wat? this is fine
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 02, 2012, 01:46:49 AM »
Quote from: muckthenuts on January 01, 2012, 09:14:37 PM
half the table is limping liberally. Villain has done a lot so far and i've assumed by this point he's bad.
given this why would we assume he's going to find a fold when the FD bricks? he's getting 3:1 on a call and will just "put you on AK" and call (most of the time
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 02, 2012, 03:11:29 AM »
Quote from: cambridgealex on January 02, 2012, 01:46:49 AM
Quote from: muckthenuts on January 01, 2012, 09:14:37 PM
half the table is limping liberally. Villain has done a lot so far and i've assumed by this point he's bad.
given this why would we assume he's going to find a fold when the FD bricks? he's getting 3:1 on a call and will just "put you on AK" and call (most of the time
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Pretty sure this works way more than the required ~35% of the time imo
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SuuPRlim
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 02, 2012, 05:28:19 AM »
yh you're getting a great price to bluff and you rep a pretty perfect value range.
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 02, 2012, 10:33:36 AM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2012, 05:28:19 AM
yh you're getting a great price to bluff and you rep a pretty perfect value range.
How often do you think it is actually a bluff? What rivers would you not bluff?
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Quote from: doubleup on January 02, 2012, 10:33:36 AM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2012, 05:28:19 AM
yh you're getting a great price to bluff and you rep a pretty perfect value range.
How often do you think it is actually a bluff? What rivers would you not bluff?
I think for sure it's a bluff >1/3 of the time, at this stage of the tourney there is almost zero air in our 3bet range pre-flop and he's gonna have to expect us to give up barreling our non premium spade spade combo's a really high % of the time, so by the time we get to the river we're pretty value heavy imo.
As for which river's not to bluff i'm not so sure after a pairing turn card. I actually think an ACE would be a bad river to bluff, as the
Xspade is a decent chunk of his value range and we cut our value range to AA/AK when we bluff that card
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 02, 2012, 12:48:02 PM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2012, 12:33:37 PM
Quote from: doubleup on January 02, 2012, 10:33:36 AM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2012, 05:28:19 AM
yh you're getting a great price to bluff and you rep a pretty perfect value range.
How often do you think it is actually a bluff? What rivers would you not bluff?
I think for sure it's a bluff >1/3 of the time, at this stage of the tourney there is almost zero air in our 3bet range pre-flop and he's gonna have to expect us to give up barreling our non premium spade spade combo's a really high % of the time, so by the time we get to the river we're pretty value heavy imo.
As for which river's not to bluff i'm not so sure after a pairing turn card. I actually think an ACE would be a bad river to bluff, as the
Xspade is a decent chunk of his value range and we cut our value range to AA/AK when we bluff that card
So why does he expect us to give up our ss combos? The guy is described as bad, he's limping in etc. If I flush draw bricks and the board runs out like this, everyone I know of that description will just put you on the draw that missed and call.
Really think this is a bad bluff.
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 02, 2012, 12:52:46 PM »
Quote from: cambridgealex on January 02, 2012, 12:48:02 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2012, 12:33:37 PM
Quote from: doubleup on January 02, 2012, 10:33:36 AM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2012, 05:28:19 AM
yh you're getting a great price to bluff and you rep a pretty perfect value range.
How often do you think it is actually a bluff? What rivers would you not bluff?
I think for sure it's a bluff >1/3 of the time, at this stage of the tourney there is almost zero air in our 3bet range pre-flop and he's gonna have to expect us to give up barreling our non premium spade spade combo's a really high % of the time, so by the time we get to the river we're pretty value heavy imo.
As for which river's not to bluff i'm not so sure after a pairing turn card. I actually think an ACE would be a bad river to bluff, as the
Xspade is a decent chunk of his value range and we cut our value range to AA/AK when we bluff that card
So why does he expect us to give up our ss combos? The guy is described as bad, he's limping in etc. If I flush draw bricks and the board runs out like this, everyone I know of that description will just put you on the draw that missed and call.
Really think this is a bad bluff.
Agree with Alex.
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 02, 2012, 12:54:25 PM »
Thoughts on check/shoving turn? Not sure i like the 3 barrels, the board doesn't change too much and obvious draws miss. He has probably got this far this 1 pair, why do you expect him to fold now? Also, great price to bluff= great price to bluff catch
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Re: Rate my triple barrel daily $162 on stars
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January 02, 2012, 01:00:00 PM »
Quote from: outragous76 on January 02, 2012, 12:52:46 PM
Agree with Alex.
+1
Board runs out pretty bad for you to barrel, I probably give up on the turn, hope it checks through and bink river. Fish don't don't fold pairs enough in these spots imo.
Also, how has this gotten to a stage where I'm more of a nit than you?
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January 02, 2012, 03:16:24 PM »
Quote from: cambridgealex on January 02, 2012, 12:48:02 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2012, 12:33:37 PM
Quote from: doubleup on January 02, 2012, 10:33:36 AM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2012, 05:28:19 AM
yh you're getting a great price to bluff and you rep a pretty perfect value range.
How often do you think it is actually a bluff? What rivers would you not bluff?
I think for sure it's a bluff >1/3 of the time, at this stage of the tourney there is almost zero air in our 3bet range pre-flop and he's gonna have to expect us to give up barreling our non premium spade spade combo's a really high % of the time, so by the time we get to the river we're pretty value heavy imo.
As for which river's not to bluff i'm not so sure after a pairing turn card. I actually think an ACE would be a bad river to bluff, as the
Xspade is a decent chunk of his value range and we cut our value range to AA/AK when we bluff that card
So why does he expect us to give up our ss combos? The guy is described as bad, he's limping in etc. If I flush draw bricks and the board runs out like this, everyone I know of that description will just put you on the draw that missed and call.
Really think this is a bad bluff.
He doesn't he defo expects us to barrel off our spade spade combos but pretty much all our spade/spades are premium (AK/AQ) and he'd have to expect us to quit barreling out non spade spade no pair hands on the turn a decent % which takes a LOT of the air out of our range. Maybe this guy has no concept of this, but from a theory point of view....
Our range is significantly stronger than his and we're getting 3-1 to bluff with a hand that has minimal chance at showdown. It's a very tough spot for (even bad players) when you put people in spots where they have to bluff catch. Pretty happy it's the nut line tbh (although not 3betting pf also a strong option)
It's high variance but once we've bet the turn I think a river jam is pretty mandatory
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