NFL 2015 season Thread

[TightEnd]

an incredible story

a long shot of course, but wow

http://www.nfluk.com/news/uknews/article-1/Abandoned-in-London-now-living-Dallas-dream/0af914f9-0f42-46d8-a843-9afcc491d266

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[Marky147]

Our very own Michael Oher!

Be incred if he makes it.

[Tal]

The Denver Broncos will not make the playoffs this year.

Discuss.

[TightEnd]

The Denver Broncos will not make the playoffs this year.

Discuss.

someone agrees with you

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000483160/article/five-teams-that-wont-return-to-the-playoffs?campaign=Twitter_atn

[Tal]

The Denver Broncos will not make the playoffs this year.

Discuss.

someone agrees with you

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000483160/article/five-teams-that-wont-return-to-the-playoffs?campaign=Twitter_atn

Ha! Yes, that's where I saw it.

Quite a claim. Lions, I agree with. Dallas, I can understand, because it's a bonkers division. But Denver?!

[TightEnd]

well if its the Manning of 20014 then you can understand it, plus new coaching

lots of free agency losses too

tough old division too KC and SD competitive.


At least four new teams have made the playoffs every year since 1990, so there are certainly turnround stories to spot and for every turnround there are going to be teams sliding

its cyclical, depending on draft position, free agency, release of players etc etc

[Tal]

Surely there's no chance Manning stays if he isn't making the playoffs?

He must believe they're still likely to get there, even after losing the likes of Julius.

The author of the article has them finishing below the Bills.

[TightEnd]

well you'd think so, but equally you have to agree there are more uncertainties this year compared to the last few

the team is just on the cusp of going from "sure thing to win the division" to some question marks

it happens to all teams. except the Patriots. (until tom retires and someone in the afc east actually improves)

[Tal]

Their home field advantage is massive to their longevity, too. Like Green Bay, they're helped by a great QB, but they get a seven point start every other week, where most teams only get three.

I expect them to drop off when Manning retires, they won't be as attractive to the mediocre WRs anymore and they'll struggle to find a QB in the draft (too high) or through Free Agency.

They blew it against Seattle (Yes, Seattle's Defense was otherworldly that night, but O v D should have been a much squarer fight) and that will be the day that wakes fans up still in their sleep when they're third in the division in 2018.

[Tal]

The Browns are reportedly considering trading both their first round picks (12 and 19) for Mariota.

Is this paper talk or did the Browns hire Mike Ditka in the last few weeks?

[TightEnd]

The Browns are reportedly considering trading both their first round picks (12 and 19) for Mariota.

Is this paper talk or did the Browns hire Mike Ditka in the last few weeks?

would say it has to be a possibility

if we say that Wnston goes 1, if i was tennessee i would take mariota 2

but they might not

so jax at 3 don't need a Qb, Oakland at 4 don't need one

so 12+19 could equal washington at 5....


you need a QB to stand a chance in the league (unless you have a great defnse and a brilliant running game), browns failed with manziel and there are so few in this draft and the browns have the ammo.

i have also heard chicago (cutler+7 for number 2 with tennessee), have heard san diego (rivers +17 for 2 with tennessee)


draft is three weeks tonight, always a fun night the first round 

[Tal]

It's a poor year to be trading for a QB though, surely? Plenty of edge rushers and running backs available. Just build your roster when you have so many gaps and you are more competitive in a relatively winnable division.

[TightEnd]

It's a poor year to be trading for a QB though, surely? Plenty of edge rushers and running backs available. Just build your roster when you have so many gaps and you are more competitive in a relatively winnable division.

how often do teams make play offs without a top-half of the league quarterback?

last year....

Arizona couldn't...rest of their roster is play off calibre

St Louis couldn't...one of the best young defenses in the league

etc etc

(playing devils advocate)

[Tal]

It's a poor year to be trading for a QB though, surely? Plenty of edge rushers and running backs available. Just build your roster when you have so many gaps and you are more competitive in a relatively winnable division.

how often do teams make play offs without a top-half of the league quarterback?

last year....

Arizona couldn't...rest of their roster is play off calibre

St Louis couldn't...one of the best young defenses in the league

etc etc

(playing devils advocate)

Two first round picks wisely spent might be enough to win that division. They almost did it with Hoyer last year. Is this lad worth such a gamble? Is he a top half QB, having come from what I understand is an unusual formation system in Oregon?

Mariota wouldn't be relishing playing for Tennessee either, I don't suppose.

New York Jets seems most likely to me.

[TightEnd]

well these are the questions

if the QBs on your roster are

00   MCCOWN, JOSH CC/TB
2    Manziel, Johnny 14/1    
00   Lewis, Thaddeus SF15    
9    Shaw, Connor CF14    

and you think Mariota is a day one starter with franchise qb potential then you've got to consider it

there's such a big advantage in having a young franchise qb on his rookie contract because that enables you to put money into other positions that teams with veteran star QBs can struggle to do

so a team with Luck, Russell Wlson has a headstart until such time as they are due the second contract, then the economics of constructing your roster changes..

but its a crapshoot..you can draft geno smith or ej manuel in the first round...russell wilson waits til pick 84 to go...