Rather than 20 on the nose for Virgil would it not be better to split he stakes on anytime scorer?

Not for me. I don't see us getting more than 1 goal most of the time.

Sandy

Virgil Van Dijk has been getting a few chances lately at set pieces for Celtic. I wouldn't expect a high scoring game as Celtic are a much more settled side now and VDV and Ambrose are forming a decent looking partnership.

A low scoring game would make set pieces valuable. Having youtubed Milans highlights this year they look very suspect to headers in their own box. Stan James are 25/1, spreadex are 28/1 with a few 33/1 and 40/1 prices elsewhere.

Betvictor, Ladbrokes and Hills are all 50/1 which i'd make a bet but there is also 59/1 available on Betfair.

£20 i'd say.

Sandy

Not sure if Scott Brown is their main penalty taker, but he has certainly scored a few pens in the past. Would help matters!

Commons.

The penalties skewed Browns goal stats but at nearly 1 in 10 i wouldn't especially now Commons takes the spot kicks.

Shahktar were very bad before they scored and the keeper looked awful.

Celtic have only scored more than 2 once in in 8 competitive games this season and that was Cliftonville. 2 goals 3 times once against 10 men for 45 mins and once against cliftonville.


I really don't get how you guys are falling over yourselves to back Celtic scorers like we'll score 10.

Sandy

Purely on the market Sandy

Hills priced up like the second leg was a pick me it isnt

Yeah but Celtic are way overpriced.

Commons isn't bad value but if i was to bet a quid i think Finonchenko @ 20 is amazing.

Sandy

Bit confused overpriced?

I dont have a view on the match odds prices but find it hard to believe anybody can think they are a long way wrong

Celtic are a far cry from the team they were last year. Not scoring enough and the defence is rotten and unsettled.

Shahktar are no world beaters but Finonchenko caused us huge issues last week.

I think 1/4 - 1/5 is a laughable price.

Sandy

Not sure if Scott Brown is their main penalty taker, but he has certainly scored a few pens in the past. Would help matters!

Commons.

The penalties skewed Browns goal stats but at nearly 1 in 10 i wouldn't especially now Commons takes the spot kicks.

Shahktar were very bad before they scored and the keeper looked awful.

Celtic have only scored more than 2 once in in 8 competitive games this season and that was Cliftonville. 2 goals 3 times once against 10 men for 45 mins and once against cliftonville.


I really don't get how you guys are falling over yourselves to back Celtic scorers like we'll score 10.

Sandy

Purely on the market Sandy

Hills priced up like the second leg was a pick me it isnt

Yeah but Celtic are way overpriced.

Commons isn't bad value but if i was to bet a quid i think Finonchenko @ 20 is amazing.

Sandy

Not sure if Scott Brown is their main penalty taker, but he has certainly scored a few pens in the past. Would help matters!

Commons.

The penalties skewed Browns goal stats but at nearly 1 in 10 i wouldn't especially now Commons takes the spot kicks.

Shahktar were very bad before they scored and the keeper looked awful.

Celtic have only scored more than 2 once in in 8 competitive games this season and that was Cliftonville. 2 goals 3 times once against 10 men for 45 mins and once against cliftonville.


I really don't get how you guys are falling over yourselves to back Celtic scorers like we'll score 10.

Sandy

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Sandy

Finished a draw@ celtic.

Everyone happy, probably.

very good bet, well done henrik

+1, thanks Sandy.

Not the bet i'd take greatest pleasure in but at the end of the day it'll make no difference to the league and makes some money.

Sandy

[For every £10 total stake £6.09 on draw and £3.91 on Inverness returns £17.39 profit if Celtic fail to win.]

Celtic v Inverness

Celtic are not firing yet. Samaras and Stokes did not train today. They were away in Asia on Tuesday and got turned over in a very big game. They did have plenty possesion so not a greatly harsh 90 minute chase the ball game. The defence continues to look awful

Last season they struggled on some an occasion after a big euro game.

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Inverness have played 3 won 3 scoring 6 and not conceding.

Celtic can be layed around 1.59 but unless my maths is off it's better to back Inverness @ 6/1 (13/2 skybet) and back the draw at 7/2 (15/4 skybet) which i think is better and beats betfair although exchanges haven't much turnover on this yet.

For every £10 total stake £6.09 on draw and £3.91 on Inverness returns £17.39 profit if Celtic fail to win.
Sandy

Can someone do me a favour, please?

I can't bet with Sky Bet, so can you reassess the stakes on the best prices elsewhere, please?

Alternatively, a straight Lay on Betfair, if that works better.

Think we'd invest (up to) £50 in total.

Thanks.

Based on your £50

Draw £30.43 Lads, Boyle or BV all 7/2

Inverness £19.57 Sportingbet, Paddy, Hills all 6/1

Profit £86.96 if Celtic do not win.



If, and it's a big if, Paddy will let you place £50 @ 9/5 as mentioned by someone else on Inverness double chance instead as it's slightly better. 8/5 Stan James is worse than the original recommend and 13/8 6/4 that most others are is way worse than what i said.

Sandy

Maybe feeling a little bruised and by the end of the day will now doubt have a whole carton of eggs on my face, but I notice we have 4 times as much on an unraced horse at an e/w price where we wont even get our money back if it doesn't win, we have also missed all the juicier prices......but not a word.

I appreciate it has come from an Elder, but still.......

It was your suggestion to have £5 EW, if you had suggested more, I'd have bet more.

A little fiver ew at best early odds is probably worth a go

Not really what I am getting at. I am happy at a small interest before everyone jumps on the bandwagon. Its the ratios I am questioning.

I have had a rebuff over a horse I put up when it was a 16 runner field. After a long courtship and study, I finally asked her out, but only for an "ice cream". I'm not too bothered if its liked or not. I put it up because I fancy it, and think it can win based on my earlier synopsis. Very much like Horsey does with his recommends.

Elder hears a whisper on an unraced horse that has halved in price, he takes her out on a blind date, cos someone says she looks tasty, for a nice meal, and its not questioned by anyone.

We all know his will win, mine will come last, but just pointing it out.

I'm afraid I don't know where you are going with this.

I placed the amount you suggested, & without hesitation. (And got a ticking off from His Lordship!). 

The general rule here is that we place the amount recommended, that is the default.

Bobby's suggestion was accepted without question by me, nobody else. He does not generally give us horses, but there has been a lot of rumours about the animal in question, & he shared them with me.

I'll get LOTS of these wrong, I will not complain though, it's the nature of the beast. 

Let us hope they both win.

I just find it amusing how some recommends get jumped all over because they come from certain people, yet others could ask for a tenner on Elvis being spotted on The Old Kent Road today and everyone nods sagely. Nothing more, nothing less.

Lunch time.

I think when i last saw tipsters records in the spreadsheet you were 2/3 hundred in the red. Doobs was about 8 hundred up. Dubai was up 3 hundred or so.

Camel and Redarmi make a living betting i believe so their opinions have a background.

Real money is at stake and it's not yours.

I'm up but don't always get placed. I also don't always agree with stakes on some bets especially hector but that has been looked at.

Put up enough good bets and you can stick two fingers up to your critics. Keep being and dick and keep losing and your critics will keep sticking two fingers up to you.

Saddest part of all is that you're dragging the tone of the thread down.

Sandy

I did the maths without Skybet but included their prices for the benefit of others.

Obviously Skybet bettors should adjust their stakes accordingly.

Sandy

Celtic v Inverness

Celtic are not firing yet. Samaras and Stokes did not train today. They were away in Asia on Tuesday and got turned over in a very big game. They did have plenty possesion so not a greatly harsh 90 minute chase the ball game. The defence continues to look awful

Last season they struggled on some an occasion after a big euro game.

01/08HJK HelsinkiUEFA Champions League19:45H2-1
04/08AberdeenClydesdale Bank Premier League12:45H1-0

08/08HJK HelsinkiUEFA Champions League18:00A2-0
11/08Real Madrid2012 Herbalife World Football Challenge19:00N0-2

21/08Helsingborgs IFUEFA Champions League19:45A2-0
25/08Inverness CTClydesdale Bank Premier League12:45A4-2

29/08Helsingborgs IFUEFA Champions League19:45H2-0
01/09HibernianClydesdale Bank Premier League15:00H2-2

19/09BenficaUEFA Champions League19:45H0-0
22/09DundeeClydesdale Bank Premier League15:00H2-0

02/10Spartak MoskvaUEFA Champions League17:00A3-2
07/10Heart of MidlothianClydesdale Bank Premier League12:45H1-0

23/10BarcelonaUEFA Champions League19:45A1-2
27/10KilmarnockClydesdale Bank Premier League15:00H0-2

07/11BarcelonaUEFA Champions League19:45H2-1
11/11St JohnstoneClydesdale Bank Premier League15:00H1-1

20/11BenficaUEFA Champions League19:45A1-2
24/11Inverness CTClydesdale Bank Premier League15:00H0-1

05/12Spartak MoskvaUEFA Champions League19:45H2-1
08/12KilmarnockClydesdale Bank Premier League12:30A3-1

12/02JuventusUEFA Champions League19:45H0-3
16/02Dundee UtdClydesdale Bank Premier League15:00H6-2

06/03JuventusUEFA Champions League19:45A0-2
09/03Ross CountyClydesdale Bank Premier League15:00A2-3



Inverness have played 3 won 3 scoring 6 and not conceding.

Celtic can be layed around 1.59 but unless my maths is off it's better to back Inverness @ 6/1 (13/2 skybet) and back the draw at 7/2 (15/4 skybet) which i think is better and beats betfair although exchanges haven't much turnover on this yet.

For every £10 total stake £6.09 on draw and £3.91 on Inverness returns £17.39 profit if Celtic fail to win.

Sandy

Total corners Celtic game at half time is 6. Karagandy have conceded 4 and won 2. they are starting to sit deeper.

Betvictor 15/8 over 12 total corners.

Bet 365 are 11/8.

Celtic will be pushing more 2nd half.

Be quick.

Sandy

Hole in one -59.56
Pressel -50
Pettersen/Ricaro + 48.40
Nordqvist/Hedwell  +35
wie/Lang +70
Munoz/Icher -40
Pressel -30
Masson -30
Recari +66.15

We made £9.99 for the weekend on these.

Most disappointing in hindsight was not backing Hull @13/8 in the singles.

Sandy

Pressel update

Wie and Lang on 2 points.

Linicombe on 1.5 points.

Pressel, Kerr, Korda, Lewis & Creamer on 1 point

Salas on 0.5 point.

Struggling but a profit isn't out of the question.

No hole in one at Wyndham

Sandy

Lang 3

Wie 2

Lewis, Lincicome, Kerr, Korda 1.5

Pressel and a few more on 1 point.

After 1 game i couldn't see top 3 missing.

Sandy

Pressel, £30 @ 4/6, DNB, BetFred.

Korda, £33 @ 8/11, DNB, BetFred.

Masson, £30 @ 23/20, DNB, Boylesport

Then the NB.....

Recari, £63 @ 21/20, DNB, Boylesport

Then the NAP.....

Icher, £100 @ 13/10, DNB, Boylesport

Pressel lost -£30

Korda halved game £0

Masson lost. -£30

Recari won. +£66.15

Icher Halved game. £0

A bit unlucky with Icher who was 2 up through 11 but looked iffy on 18 when they shook hands. Phew.

Sandy