This hand is annoying me , could I have played it differently ??

[sovietsong]

you push preflop then royal?  i would have passed...

[Royal Flush]

you push preflop then royal?  i would have passed...

I am not allowed to say, the original OP has PM'd me and asked me not to comment on the play of the hand.

[sovietsong]

PM me with what you would do as your opinion is v.important to me! 

[Ironside]

12bb isnt play

[Ironside]

if you flop a set you then need to find your oppos with a hand or a draw to pay you off for the times that you miss and fold

your only getting 11/2 for whats is in effect a 7-1 shot and then hope that your oppos have enough of the board to pay you the implied odds which will reult in out draws meaning you need larger impied odds

[Ironside]

oh and your out of position

[BigTomatoes]

 thats a bit tight in my opinion , i call or push . dont like to go all in for coin flip for tournament life though.

[BigTomatoes]

 dont mind an answer to the question flushy , as long as it it isnt snide . 

[Ironside]

but your not going all in for a coin flip your going all in to make the others fold hands like A8

[Rookie (Rodney)]

PM me with what you would do as your opinion is v.important to me! 

Your opinion means sh*t to us all flushy. Could probably guess its the usual.......

[stewart]

 i have to ask this what are u doing there pre-flop with a small pair after a min-raise and a flat call and 1st to act?, with a relitivley shortstack - thats where ur problem is, once u hit the flop ur bet looks week like your hopeing they havent hit it and trying to take it down and his raise is ok he figures you for a J that doesnt want to risk your tourneyment life on it,  they only way out of this hand is to check the flop and let the fd bet the other guy call and then move-in then if he wants to call thats his choice, the way it panned out hes never passing

but it is a small comp he most likely is just trying to go for 1st spot and not botherd about small placeings in that case if u go all-in he prob calls on the flop, but pre-flop is the problem like i said before u got to look at things before calling a min raise for value so u prob think, the push pre-flop isnt really an option here either by the sounds of it 1 of the 2 guys will call,

[Rookie (Rodney)]

push pre

[johnbhoy76]

I cannot agree with most of the relies so far.

For me you did nothing wrong and most people are commenting on this hand with the benefit of knowing the final outcome.

"push pre flop" is the statement of a plonekr. Sorry but it really is.

you are getting 5-5 to 1 to hit to see the flop so what's wrong with a call? Why are so many players scared of flops and just want to go all in and let fate decide? You're supposd to be poker players for heavens sake! What's wrong with seeing a flop when you're getting 5.5 to 1.

When that flop came out I'd have just stuck it all in as any sort of bet would pot commit you anyway so you might as well go all in. Hopefully they would take that as you having to pair and call with their flush draw.

The fact that you got outdrawn is totally irrelevent as to how you should have played the hand.

I think you played it fine and just got outdrawn

[johnbhoy76]

, once u hit the flop ur bet looks week like your hopeing they havent hit it and trying to take it down

Surely that is a good thing considering he has flopped a set?

[JungleCat03]

I cannot agree with most of the relies so far.

For me you did nothing wrong and most people are commenting on this hand with the benefit of knowing the final outcome.

"push pre flop" is the statement of a plonekr. Sorry but it really is.

Sorry but it's not!

Against 2 very weak looking bets, you get the opportunity to just about make both lay down preflop, or if called give yourself the best chance of getting heads up with likely the best hand in an pot with an overlay.

There's next to no room to "play poker" on the flop. If you call, it's very likely you are playing no set no bet. It will be difficult to bluff your way out of the pot from "wayyyyy outta position" (tuffish 6-9)

When you're shortish, these opportunities can be golden.

Calling is an option. Especially if you are suspicious of the min raisers range (although in 90% of cases he will have sweet f a)

You are definitely getting the odds to flop a set including implied odds. Folding's yuck.