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« Reply #81210 on: June 23, 2014, 06:48:55 PM »

All I said was you were better than historical stats Smiley

England's best batsmen and certainly key man in a chase like this where no super pressure on run rate being out of nick and England's lack of experience in key positions at 3 and 6 are way more important than historical run chasing stats where the variables in each case are incomparable

i think that's a compliment

and yes, i agree, the fact that england are rebuilding, are callow in batting (2,3,5,6 all inexperienced), have no spinner etc is more important than any stat.


What are your thoughts on Monty? My personal opinion is that he is perhaps the only spinner we have at the moment that could/should be playing.  The only reason he isn't is because of his *ahem* extra curricular activities in Brighton however long ago & as such the ECB don't like him.  Yes he can't bat (although he won us the ashes with his batting) and his fielding isn't great, but that could "easily" be improved?

our best spinner currently available but unpickable because of the off the field stuff. it wasn't just brighton he has been suspended by essex twice for ill discipline, and of course cook has seen this first hand. if you aren't a team player then this england regime aren't picking you...

him apart there isn't a spinner we can pick who looks good enough or ready. swann retired through injury about 18 months ahead of any succession plan and attempts to try kerrigan or borthwick both never got off the ground

so we are a bit stuffed really, and in neither test of this summer have we produced a pitch to suit a 4 man pace attack. baffling



Do you not feel that this regime just look for a scape goat all the time, its not their fault, its someone else's? The reason we lost down under was because of KP etc etc?  Wouldn't it be easier/better to man manage these types of players and not get into a situation in the first place to cause them to "go off the rails"?
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« Reply #81211 on: June 23, 2014, 07:10:30 PM »

All I said was you were better than historical stats Smiley

England's best batsmen and certainly key man in a chase like this where no super pressure on run rate being out of nick and England's lack of experience in key positions at 3 and 6 are way more important than historical run chasing stats where the variables in each case are incomparable

i think that's a compliment

and yes, i agree, the fact that england are rebuilding, are callow in batting (2,3,5,6 all inexperienced), have no spinner etc is more important than any stat.


What are your thoughts on Monty? My personal opinion is that he is perhaps the only spinner we have at the moment that could/should be playing.  The only reason he isn't is because of his *ahem* extra curricular activities in Brighton however long ago & as such the ECB don't like him.  Yes he can't bat (although he won us the ashes with his batting) and his fielding isn't great, but that could "easily" be improved?

our best spinner currently available but unpickable because of the off the field stuff. it wasn't just brighton he has been suspended by essex twice for ill discipline, and of course cook has seen this first hand. if you aren't a team player then this england regime aren't picking you...

him apart there isn't a spinner we can pick who looks good enough or ready. swann retired through injury about 18 months ahead of any succession plan and attempts to try kerrigan or borthwick both never got off the ground

so we are a bit stuffed really, and in neither test of this summer have we produced a pitch to suit a 4 man pace attack. baffling



Do you not feel that this regime just look for a scape goat all the time, its not their fault, its someone else's? The reason we lost down under was because of KP etc etc?  Wouldn't it be easier/better to man manage these types of players and not get into a situation in the first place to cause them to "go off the rails"?

well Monty went off the rails because of problems in his personal life, nothing to do with the team/management culture

in general though, i agree. not a huge fan of giles clarke, the ECB or Cook as a captain (not as a player obviously brilliant), and sadly Cook is now under a lot of pressure because of his batting form whilst captain
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« Reply #81212 on: June 23, 2014, 07:24:33 PM »

Dellacqua through to round two, won in 3 sets having lost the first. 
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« Reply #81213 on: June 23, 2014, 07:25:14 PM »

Bet365 and Stan James both offering 20/1 on Samuel Eto'o to be first scorer today - that's a much bigger price than most other bookies! Value?

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/cameroon-v-brazil/first-goalscorer

I've put £1 on it anyway :-)
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« Reply #81214 on: June 23, 2014, 07:49:45 PM »

Bet365 and Stan James both offering 20/1 on Samuel Eto'o to be first scorer today - that's a much bigger price than most other bookies! Value?

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/cameroon-v-brazil/first-goalscorer

I've put £1 on it anyway :-)

I think i'll wait to see the line-ups...but if he's in it looks like a fun punt!
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« Reply #81215 on: June 23, 2014, 08:09:10 PM »

c4 dispatches now 'how to fix a football match'.  Interesting viewing.
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« Reply #81216 on: June 23, 2014, 08:10:28 PM »

Bet365 and Stan James both offering 20/1 on Samuel Eto'o to be first scorer today - that's a much bigger price than most other bookies! Value?

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/cameroon-v-brazil/first-goalscorer

I've put £1 on it anyway :-)

I think i'll wait to see the line-ups...but if he's in it looks like a fun punt!

He's not starting :-(
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« Reply #81217 on: June 23, 2014, 08:13:06 PM »

#BRA XI - Julio Cesar, Dani Alves, Thiago Silva, David Luiz, Marcelo, Paulinho, Fred, Neymar, Oscar, Luiz Gustavo, Hulk.

CMR XI - Itandje, Nkoulou, Nguemo, Moukandjo, Aboubakar, Bedimo, Choupo Moting, Mbia, Enoh, Matip, Nyom.

the £5 betfair sportsbook free bet, on correct score, first goalscorer etc...

all the prices are short for the front six, and below betfair

so its sideshow bob time, long range free kick please

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« Reply #81218 on: June 23, 2014, 08:16:06 PM »

Not to piss all over that recomm Tighty, this is a separate point. Am I right in saying there haven't been many long range efforts flying in this World Cup? I wonder if it is the ball at all. I saw Ronaldo consistently struggle, especially with free kicks, which is an oddity.
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« Reply #81219 on: June 23, 2014, 08:25:43 PM »

England team to play Costa Rica just announced: Foster, Jones, Cahill, Smalling,. Shaw; Milner, Lampard, Wilshere; Barkley, Lallana, Sturridge.

anyone like costa rica at 7/2 or 2/1 dnb?

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/costa-rica-v-england/draw-no-bet

point wins them the group
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« Reply #81220 on: June 23, 2014, 08:28:25 PM »

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/england/top-goalscorer

Sturridge and Lampard look bets at 11/10 and 55/1 respectively ?
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« Reply #81221 on: June 23, 2014, 08:34:06 PM »

England team to play Costa Rica just announced: Foster, Jones, Cahill, Smalling,. Shaw; Milner, Lampard, Wilshere; Barkley, Lallana, Sturridge.

anyone like costa rica at 7/2 or 2/1 dnb?

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/costa-rica-v-england/draw-no-bet

point wins them the group

i dont get the lampard choice, yes you need some experience but is this not likely the last game lampard will play in an england shirt?
is there no other option for that role? could wellbeck or sterling or henderson not fill it?
or is he trying to give players who havent had a chance a run out if so why sturidge?
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« Reply #81222 on: June 23, 2014, 08:41:32 PM »

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/england/top-goalscorer

Sturridge and Lampard look bets at 11/10 and 55/1 respectively ?

are these recommendations?

thinking lampard on penalties?

sturridge would be unlucky not to dead heat at worst, right?
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« Reply #81223 on: June 23, 2014, 08:55:24 PM »

but is this not likely the last game lampard will play in an england shirt?

Why wouldn't it be? He's older than Gerrard, lower down the pecking order, and doesn't even play for his club. He hasn't even got a club anymore. Surely he must be 100% to be one of the retirees after this WC.
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« Reply #81224 on: June 23, 2014, 08:57:08 PM »

England team to play Costa Rica just announced: Foster, Jones, Cahill, Smalling,. Shaw; Milner, Lampard, Wilshere; Barkley, Lallana, Sturridge.

Glad he's playing loads of youngsters, plus Sturridge for my top England goalscorer bet   :-D
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