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MintTrav
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July 30, 2020, 03:42:54 AM »
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Keisha Lance Bottoms
(50) - Mayor of Atlanta, Georgia
She came to national prominence over recent weeks, as her common-sense handling of the riots, relating it to her own family, was widely appreciated, as was sticking it to Georgia's Governor. She may become a national politician as a result, but straight to VP would be too much of a stretch. Running a city is a huge deal, especially one as big as Atlanta, but it still doesn't prepare you to make that leap. She has publicly supported Biden for over a year, long before the majority, and Georgia's transition into a potential swing State helps her cause, but a move into Congress, where she can address the gaps in her experience, such as foreign policy and defence, makes more sense at this stage.
Catherine Cortez
(56) - Senator, Nevada
Hispanics are one of the few traditional Democrat-supporting groups where Biden isn't strong, so she could help there, though it might reduce the Black turnout if the choice isn't Black after everything that's happened, irrespective of it being non-White. She is still in her first term, so her experience isn't as strong as Joe wants. Can't see it happening.
Michelle Lujan Grisham
(60) - Governor, New Mexico
The only Hispanic Governor that the Dems have. She was previously a member of Congress, so has that rare combination. The Republicans are targeting NM this time, so this would help retain the State, while a Latina New Mexico Governor with Washington experience would definitely add to the ticket.
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Tammy Duckworth
(52) - Senator, Illinois
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There aren't many boxes that Tammy doesn't tick. She is an ethnic minority Army veteran, who lost both her legs in Iraq when the helicopter she was piloting was hit. One of her arms was also permanently damaged. Despite her injuries, she managed to gain entry to the Illinois National Guard, where she continued while in Congress, rising to Lieutenant-Colonel. She became Director of the Illinois Dept of Veteran Affairs and then Asst Sec of Veteran Affairs in the Obama Administration, so she has Executive experience and well as legislative and military. She has many firsts to her name, including being the first Senator to give birth while in office (at the age of 50), with the Senate rules being changed to allow her to bring her baby onto the floor.
From being an outsider, Tammy has gained momentum in the last few weeks. Tucker Carlsen shredded her a couple of weeks ago, bizarrely claiming that she hates America, which only seemed to help her case, as people were wondering why he felt the need. Although he currently has the most-watched show in the US, this backfired to such an extent that he suddenly went on leave last week, an old Fox tactic for cooling the temperature when a host screws up, demonstrating how untouchable Duckworth is.
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There is one reason why I would be surprised to see Joe pick her - Tammy was born in Thailand, which means she can never be President. If this selection is about positioning someone for the future, it would be pointless. On the other hand, his Presidency will have a very tough start and he is entitled to make his best selection to share the burden.
Karen Bass
(66) - House Representative, California
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From being a long shot, Bass has unexpectedly risen into the top list at just the right time. She is leader of the Black Caucus in Congress, and was Speaker of the Cali House of Reps, the first Black woman in the nation to hold such a position.Though a Progressive, she has maintained good relations with Republicans and shares with Biden a reputation for being likeable, as well as personal tragedy, with her daughter and son-in-law being killed in a car crash. She is the only candidate who has a personal relationship with both parties' Leaders in the house, Nancy Pelosi and Kevin McCarthy, working with McCarthy when they were both in the Cali House. Pelosi chose Bass to write and lead the recent Police Reform Bill, which included bans on choke holds and no-knock warrants, and she managed to craft a Bill that got the support of all Progressives and Moderates, gathering 100% of Democrat votes plus three Republicans. One advantage she has is that there isn't really anything that Trump and his wing-men can attack her for, unlike just about everyone else. Some in Florida have an issue with her for praising Castro when he died, and Florida is a knife-edge state, but that's about it. However, she hasn't been a Governor or Senator, or worked in the White House and, despite her achievements, it's a surprise to see her riding quite so high in the VP considerations.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/24/karen-bass-biden-vp-380583
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Val Demings
(63) - House Representative, Florida
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If former Attorney Generals have a problem, then what about an actual cop? Demings was the Chief of Police in Orlando, and spent a total of 27 years in OPD. She has been arguing for police reform, but her force had a reputation for excessive use of force, recording 20% more incidents than one of comparable population and profile, and she had a reputation for siding with the officers involved. Of course, a problem with some groups is a bonus for her with others, who may be the Independents and soft Republicans Joe needs to win over. Her husband was also Orlando Chief of Police some years earlier, and they led neighbouring forces when he became Sheriff of Orange County, which surrounds Orlando. He is now Mayor of Orange County. She will be light on international exposure and is not as well known as most of the others, though she was seen widely when she was one of the Democrats' impeachment managers. She comes across more warmly in interviews than some of the others and, with parents who were a janitor and a maid, she has a compelling story. Even so, I'm surprised to see her in the shake-up.
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Elizabeth Warren
(71) - Senator, Massachusetts
Although regarded as highly accomplished, being a progressive reduces her chances, especially with Biden saying repeatedly that he wants someone on his wavelength. Also, being too white isn't the best career move right now.
She helped Biden in the Primaries by staying in the race too long and splitting the Progressive support, and then by not declaring for Sanders after she dropped out. She also skewed Bloomberg so badly that he never became a threat to Biden. The two have unexpectedly become closer since she dropped out and Biden has agreed to her demand to overhaul the law on bankruptcy, which is ironic as this was the issue that first brought her to Washington, when she was an expert witness for the Senate Judiciary Committee and clashed with the Chairman, Senator Joe Biden. Her performance led to widespread calls for her to enter politics at a late age, and the rest is history.
She has dropped her opposition to big-money fundraising and Biden's joint fundraising events with her have brought in more than with anyone else except Obama. She keeps coming top in surveys - she is the favourite amongst Democrats, she is the favourite option of undecided voters in battleground States, and she adds more voters to Biden than any of the other candidates.
Susan Rice
(55) - Former Asst Secretary of Sate, National Security Advisor, Ambassador to UN
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Rice has extensive foreign policy experience, and has advised Democrat Presidential nominees since 1988, ie Dukakis, Kerry and Obama. She's the only candidate with a lot of Executive experience, at both the White House and State, which will matter more than usual as the infrastructure needs to be rebuilt. She spent four years on Clinton's White House National Security council and then four years as his Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs. She spent half of Obama's time as National Security Advisor and half as Ambassador to the United Nations. She has never held elected office, so it's not known how voters would react to her, especially as she has been accused of misleading the public over Benghazi, and there was an issue over an email during the transition. Fox News has tried to demonise her over the last few years, and would continue to do so and, though it hasn't managed to nail her so far, Trump supporters might turn out more heavily just to oppose her. Ironically, her son is a right-wing Republican who is trying to 'Make Stanford Great Again'. Also, she hasn't been tested in campaign debate but, when it comes down to it, having worked closely together before, Biden knows he can rely on her and trust her.
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Kamala Harris
(55) - Senator, California
Kamala is well-respected and regarded as competent, in spite of her less-than-stellar Presidential campaign. There wouldn't be too many policy disagreements between her and Biden. Although she would bring Black voters, Biden is strong there anyway and it's impossible for a Democrat not to win California, so she doesn't add much in those regards. She is also part Indian, so it might help with the usually-ignored Asian vote. Being State Attorney General (after being San Fran D A) means she has some baggage and turns some off, but her knowledge on crime and policing is a plus, and she has experience of running a large organisation as well as her time in the Senate. She took a lot of heat from all directions when she was going after banks for sub-prime mortgages, but a few other State Attorney Generals supported her (including Catherine Cortez Masto mentioned above, then AG of Nevada). Beau Biden (AG of Delaware) was her closest ally, and she ended up with a huge £20bn victory. They became really close and continued working together on other issues. When she gave Biden a black eye during one of the debates, it was all the more devastating coming from her. She dismissed it later "It was a debate", and Joe seemed to get over it, but it seems that Jill Biden took a lot longer to get past it.
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July 30, 2020, 03:53:52 AM »
Biden's notes on Harris.
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July 30, 2020, 04:04:05 AM »
Incred updates, MintTrav, and always appreciated.
Dinner on me, if there is anything left of the US by the time we can get out there again
Do you think he'll go with Harris?
Bookie be hoping for Warren, and then her sliding in by default before inauguration, lol.
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July 30, 2020, 08:00:57 AM »
“ Hope is being able to see that there is light despite all of the darkness “
Still in love with her 😄
Thanks for the updates MintTrav , not got the foggiest who Biden will pick but
I am pretty sure sleepy Joe doesn’t know either
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Thanks for that, really interesting read
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Quote from: Marky147 on July 30, 2020, 04:04:05 AM
Do you think he'll go with Harris?
I don't know, but Politico printed this on Tuesday, before quickly taking it down:
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Politico has quotes that haven't happened yet, so either they're in cahoots with the Biden campaign, or they're making stuff up, or they've knocked up something for everyone.
Biden runs a tight campaign, and his team has been notable for its discipline. Kamala's political team, on the other hand, tore itself apart with infighting, perhaps not surprising when the campaign was already on the slide. Joe won't want to go backwards by creating an unhappy combination - everyone remembers the McCain-Palin fiasco. She has rebuilt her team since, though, so it might be okay.
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July 30, 2020, 12:42:48 PM »
One thing I neglected to mention is that Val Demings’ home State of Florida is always in the balance, and carries a lot of Electoral College votes, which could have a bearing.
It may be less important this time round, though, with the question becoming not who will win, or whether it will be close, but “How big will the landslide be?”.
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If Politico has jumped the gun, it wouldn't be the first time a publication has distributed the wrong result.
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Newsweek prepared two versions and distributed the wrong one.
“President-elect Hillary Clinton ‘went high’ when her opponent and his supporters went ever lower....on election day, Americans across the country roundly rejected the kind of fear and hate-based conservatism peddled by Donald Trump... The highest glass ceiling in the western world had finally shattered.”
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The Chicago Daily Tribune didn't even have Newsweek's excuse. The first edition had to go to press while results were still coming in and Dewey was such an overwhelming favourite that they called it for him. That's Truman, if you hadn't guessed. The Tribune wasn't the only paper to make this mistake, but Truman hated it and was glad to show it up.
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Herman Cain has died from Covid-19
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/30/herman-cain-former-republican-presidential-candidate-dies-coronavirus
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Tremendous in-depth work MintTrav which is appreciated by so many of us here.
It's been a thorough education for me on a subject I only knew a little about.
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Quote from: AndrewT on July 30, 2020, 05:00:35 PM
Herman Cain has died from Covid-19
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/30/herman-cain-former-republican-presidential-candidate-dies-coronavirus
Oh, that’s awful. Even if he brought it on himself through that dumb Republican arrogance, it’s a terrible penalty to pay.
There were several posts on his Twitter over the last week or two saying that his condition was improving. There had also been loads of posts every day on all kinds of political subjects, implying that Herman was writing them, when it’s now obvious that it wasn’t him. Shows how some of these people manipulate and mislead all the time. Turns out he always had someone who managed his Twitter account - now I’m wondering who else isn’t writing their own tweets.
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Herman Cain tweeted this less than a day before he died. They were tweeting from his account in support of Covid vaccine scepticism while he was dying of Covid.
I’m not saying he wouldn’t have agreed with it, up til he got sick anyway - we don’t know what he was thinking, if anything, after that. He did tweet this before (or at least, it was done on his account. Whether it was him or not, I assume he agreed with it.), but continuing while he was at death’s door from that actual cause seems extraordinarily cynical.
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You can normally tell when it's Donald tweeting, but hard to tell with most of them.
Very sad he died, but no doubt that will be someone else's fault, too.
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