Frustrating!

[George2Loose]

OK is there basically nothing I can do here? Should I check/fold? Call pre? For some reason I keep getting shoved on and burning up half my stack:

Full Tilt Poker Game #19759618349: $17,500 KO Guarantee (150953989), Table 11 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:18:59 ET - 2010/04/02
Seat 1: Furmules (9,765)
Seat 2: threete (4,961)
Seat 3: George2Loose (5,790)
Seat 4: TUCCI007 (9,930)
Seat 5: Alex2107 (3,610)
Seat 6: Oxide101 (19,800)
Seat 7: BNTP4 (6,915)
Seat 8: rh300487 (2,705)
Seat 9: basouli (3,500)
George2Loose posts the small blind of 40
TUCCI007 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [ ]
Alex2107 folds
Dealerluv (Observer): HO
Oxide101 has been disconnected
Oxide101 has 15 seconds left to act
Oxide101 has reconnected
Oxide101 has 15 seconds left to act
Oxide101 folds
BNTP4 calls 80
rh300487 has 15 seconds left to act
rh300487 folds
Dealerluv (Observer): HEY OXIDE
Dealerluv (Observer): SIR
basouli folds
Furmules folds
threete raises to 340
George2Loose raises to 920
TUCCI007 folds
BNTP4 folds
threete calls 580
*** FLOP *** [ ]
George2Loose bets 1,160
threete has 15 seconds left to act
threete raises to 4,041, and is all in
George2Loose folds
Uncalled bet of 2,881 returned to threete
threete mucks
threete wins the pot (4,320)
The blinds are now 50/100
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,320 | Rake 0
Board: [ ]
Seat 1: Furmules didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: threete (button) collected (4,320), mucked
Seat 3: George2Loose (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: TUCCI007 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Alex2107 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Oxide101 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: BNTP4 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: rh300487 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: basouli didn't bet (folded)

[thetank]

Line is fine imo. 3 chances to win; opponent pre flop fold, opponent fold to our c-bet or we can even occasionaly connect with a flop.

Calling pre is ok too, if we think opponent is raising wide enough that we are happy to check call post when limper folds and it's heads up but we miss.

[George2Loose]

Just seems I keep getting shoved on in this spot. Spose they all put me on ace king and own my soul

[thetank]

Maybe it's the c bet size? I'm way more likely to shove on someone betting 58% than someone betting 65%-75% ish.

[George2Loose]

Maybe it's the c bet size? I'm way more likely to shove on someone betting 58% than someone betting 65%-75% ish.

Yeh was thinking this myself. Although I would probably size it the same to induce so spose I need to generally up my c bet size

[George2Loose]

Owning me now:

Full Tilt Poker Game #19760478235: $17,500 KO Guarantee (150953989), Table 11 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:02:54 ET - 2010/04/02
Seat 1: chil ivey (10,821)
Seat 2: threete (9,042)
Seat 3: George2Loose (9,300)
Seat 4: TUCCI007 (4,410)
Seat 5: Alex2107 (7,525)
Seat 6: Oxide101 (28,129)
Seat 7: BNTP4 (4,895)
Seat 8: rh300487 (2,250)
Seat 9: basouli (2,550)
basouli posts the small blind of 100
chil ivey posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [ ]
threete calls 200
George2Loose has 15 seconds left to act
George2Loose raises to 800
TUCCI007 folds
Alex2107 folds
Oxide101 folds
BNTP4 has 15 seconds left to act
BNTP4 folds
rh300487 folds
basouli folds
chil ivey folds
threete calls 600
*** FLOP *** [ ]
threete bets 700
George2Loose folds
Uncalled bet of 700 returned to threete
threete mucks
threete wins the pot (1,900)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,900 | Rake 0
Board: [ ]
Seat 1: chil ivey (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: threete collected (1,900), mucked
Seat 3: George2Loose folded on the Flop
Seat 4: TUCCI007 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Alex2107 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Oxide101 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: BNTP4 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: rh300487 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: basouli (small blind) folded before the Flop

[thetank]

meh, w/out reads I'd probs snap the small donk bet there.

with reads I'd probs snap the small donk bet too as my reads are generally shit.

[George2Loose]

meh, w/out reads I'd probs snap the small donk bet there.

with reads I'd probs snap the small donk bet too as my reads are generally shit.

meh guy didnt like folding and was pretty aggro. Waited till I flopped a set of queens when he had middle pair instead

[thetank]

good stuff

AK high might be good were my thoughts. IP we could get a cheap showdown. Usually I'd fire on turn if he checks but against described opponent I'd check behind and snap on river.

[outragous76]

dont c bet the flop when you have to fold to the shove - ie with shallow stacks

poker gods will reward you with a K on the turn

[thetank]

dont c bet the flop when you have to fold to the shove - ie with shallow stacks

poker gods will reward you with a K on the turn

call or fold in hand 1 after you check OOP and villain bets?

[George2Loose]

dont c bet the flop when you have to fold to the shove - ie with shallow stacks

poker gods will reward you with a K on the turn

call or fold in hand 1 after you check OOP and villain bets?

Yeh I don't really like checking when 4 betting.

Fear not I donked off my stack in true George2loose style

[EvilPie]

Just seems I keep getting shoved on in this spot. Spose they all put me on ace king and own my soul

Ha ha. I always think this when I have to lay AK down.

I think we need to be more positive and spose they had da nuts and we actually made the correct laydown.

[AlexMartin]

 3b smaller hand 1

[david3103]

Why such big raises pre?

I know Hand 1 is a reraise but Hand 2 you've only got 1 limper and I'd expect you to be making 2.4-2.5x plus a small bit for the limper, not 4x

I'm not criticising the bet, just looking for clarity - the bets here don't match the pattern you were playing in that Friday Night tourney you posted on APAT