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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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March 21, 2014, 11:08:08 AM »
Kind of wish I didn't bring it up now. I've just sat down to my boiled eggs.
In answer to my dad, I'm reckon the 'nut' is the optimum position to be in? And no, I don't know what verbs and adjectives and ting are, but I'll learn eventually!
Also, Happy Birthday Tal!
I know what birthday it is, we discussed it on here once!
How does it feel? Better start looking for that rich wife now!
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If a man speaks in a forest and no woman is there to hear him, is he still wrong?
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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March 21, 2014, 11:11:41 AM »
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2014, 10:55:19 AM
I'd say
void
and
evacuate
are synonyms, although I've just checked the OED and to
void can mean to drain away
. That certainly doesn't imply any great speed.
In law, a contract may also be
voidable
.
BOOM!
We drain fluids, not solids.
So Tom is wrong again. I'll not hold my breath awaiting his apology. He never admits it when he is wrong.
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March 21, 2014, 11:29:30 AM »
Quote from: Redsgirl on March 21, 2014, 11:08:08 AM
Kind of wish I didn't bring it up now. I've just sat down to my boiled eggs.
In answer to my dad, I'm reckon the 'nut' is the optimum position to be in? And no, I don't know what verbs and adjectives and ting are, but I'll learn eventually!
Also, Happy Birthday Tal!
I know what birthday it is, we discussed it on here once!
How does it feel? Better start looking for that rich wife now!
Thanks. I'm one year closer to achieving my dream of being a grumpy old man.
Verbs are doing words
(eat, sleep, rave, repeat)
Nouns are things
(heads, shoulders, knees and toes)
Adjectives describe nouns
(harder, better, faster, stronger, blue, mad, sunny, numb)
Adverbs describe verbs
(softly, gently, very, haggardly)
There are some complications, but that covers 99% of what you need.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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March 21, 2014, 11:54:03 AM »
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2014, 11:29:30 AM
Quote from: Redsgirl on March 21, 2014, 11:08:08 AM
Kind of wish I didn't bring it up now. I've just sat down to my boiled eggs.
In answer to my dad, I'm reckon the 'nut' is the optimum position to be in? And no, I don't know what verbs and adjectives and ting are, but I'll learn eventually!
Also, Happy Birthday Tal!
I know what birthday it is, we discussed it on here once!
How does it feel? Better start looking for that rich wife now!
Thanks. I'm one year closer to achieving my dream of being a grumpy old man.
Verbs are doing words
(eat, sleep, rave, repeat)
Nouns are things
(heads, shoulders, knees and toes)
Adjectives describe nouns
(harder, better, faster, stronger, blue, mad, sunny, numb)
Adverbs describe verbs
(softly, gently, very, haggardly)
There are some complications, but that covers 99% of what you need.
O.k. Bear with me here, this is all new to me.
So, in;
"The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog", jumped and lazy are adjectives and quick is an adverb?
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March 21, 2014, 11:57:17 AM »
Go back to the list and work out what each of the words are doing in your sentence.
Picture the sentence in your mind, word by word. What is the word
quick
doing?
Lazy
?
Jumps
?
(It is jumps, by the way. This isn't just you; it is one of those little things that wind me up. In your sentence, there is no S)
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March 21, 2014, 12:24:18 PM »
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2014, 11:57:17 AM
Go back to the list and work out what each of the words are doing in your sentence.
Picture the sentence in your mind, word by word. What is the word
quick
doing?
Lazy
?
Jumps
?
(It is jumps, by the way. This isn't just you; it is one of those little things that wind me up. In your sentence, there is no S)
I really haven't got it yet, have I?
Jumps and quick are verbs and lazy is an adverb?
I know this is screamingly obvious to you.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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March 21, 2014, 12:41:14 PM »
Quote from: Redsgirl on March 21, 2014, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2014, 11:57:17 AM
Go back to the list and work out what each of the words are doing in your sentence.
Picture the sentence in your mind, word by word. What is the word
quick
doing?
Lazy
?
Jumps
?
(It is jumps, by the way. This isn't just you; it is one of those little things that wind me up. In your sentence, there is no S)
I really haven't got it yet, have I?
Jumps and quick are verbs and lazy is an adverb?
I know this is screamingly obvious to you.
I'm at the same level as you MsRed, but I'd say....
Jump
is a verb. A doing thing.
Quick
describes a doing thing, so must be an adverb?
Lazy
an adverb I think. It describes how we do a doing thing?
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Tal
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Reply #24097 on:
March 21, 2014, 12:46:43 PM »
Quote from: Redsgirl on March 21, 2014, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2014, 11:57:17 AM
Go back to the list and work out what each of the words are doing in your sentence.
Picture the sentence in your mind, word by word. What is the word
quick
doing?
Lazy
?
Jumps
?
(It is jumps, by the way. This isn't just you; it is one of those little things that wind me up. In your sentence, there is no S)
I really haven't got it yet, have I?
Jumps and quick are verbs and lazy is an adverb?
I know this is screamingly obvious to you.
Really don't worry about not getting it. This stuff is foreign to the vast majority of people. I'll go through it:
QUICK is used to describe the fox - the fox is quick, which enables him to jump over the lazy dog. Fox is a thing (we can picture a fox, so it is a noun) and so quick is a word that describes a noun: an
adjective
.
The same is true of LAZY, because dog is the same as fox in that it is a thing (noun) and
lazy
describes the dog. Lazy is an
adjective
.
JUMPS. The story of the sentence is that there is this fox that is being hunted and he manages to get past a dog that would be after it by jumping over it while it sleeps. Jumps is a doing word: it tells us about an action something is taking. I jump, you jump, we jump, they jump, he jumps, the fox jumps. It is a
verb
So, we have
The adjective, adjective noun verbs over the adjective noun.
The joy of this is you can now replace each of these with other examples:
The shimmering, studded elf vaulted over the dancing sprite
The withering, wittering forumite passed over the grammatical baton.
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Tal
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Reply #24098 on:
March 21, 2014, 12:47:44 PM »
Quote from: tikay on March 21, 2014, 12:41:14 PM
Quote from: Redsgirl on March 21, 2014, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2014, 11:57:17 AM
Go back to the list and work out what each of the words are doing in your sentence.
Picture the sentence in your mind, word by word. What is the word
quick
doing?
Lazy
?
Jumps
?
(It is jumps, by the way. This isn't just you; it is one of those little things that wind me up. In your sentence, there is no S)
I really haven't got it yet, have I?
Jumps and quick are verbs and lazy is an adverb?
I know this is screamingly obvious to you.
I'm at the same level as you MsRed, but I'd say....
Jump
is a verb. A doing thing.
Quick
describes a doing thing, so must be an adverb?
Lazy
an adverb I think. It describes how we do a doing thing?
Don't think about what it generally does; focus on what it is doing in the sentence.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Reply #24099 on:
March 21, 2014, 12:50:45 PM »
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2014, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: tikay on March 21, 2014, 12:41:14 PM
Quote from: Redsgirl on March 21, 2014, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2014, 11:57:17 AM
Go back to the list and work out what each of the words are doing in your sentence.
Picture the sentence in your mind, word by word. What is the word
quick
doing?
Lazy
?
Jumps
?
(It is jumps, by the way. This isn't just you; it is one of those little things that wind me up. In your sentence, there is no S)
I really haven't got it yet, have I?
Jumps and quick are verbs and lazy is an adverb?
I know this is screamingly obvious to you.
I'm at the same level as you MsRed, but I'd say....
Jump
is a verb. A doing thing.
Quick
describes a doing thing, so must be an adverb?
Lazy
an adverb I think. It describes how we do a doing thing?
Don't think about what it generally does; focus on what it is doing in the sentence.
Bugger.
I got one out of 3.
Are you sure?
Sheesh.
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March 21, 2014, 12:51:32 PM »
All very dogist omo.
Not all dogs are lazy.
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March 21, 2014, 12:55:02 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 21, 2014, 12:51:32 PM
All very dogist omo.
Not all dogs are lazy.
I think we're saying the opposite; we have to use the adjective lazy
because
not all dogs are lazy. If all dogs were lazy, the word would be redundant in the sentence.
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March 21, 2014, 12:59:00 PM »
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2014, 12:55:02 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 21, 2014, 12:51:32 PM
All very dogist omo.
Not all dogs are lazy.
I think we're saying the opposite; we have to use the adjective lazy
because
not all dogs are lazy. If all dogs were lazy, the word would be redundant in the sentence.
But the phrase implies that the exception proves the rule.
Dogist stereotyping.
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March 21, 2014, 12:59:35 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 21, 2014, 12:51:32 PM
All very dogist omo.
Not all dogs are lazy.
You & I are getting owned here, Tom.
Stop digging, you can't win.
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March 21, 2014, 01:02:17 PM »
Quote from: tikay on March 21, 2014, 12:59:35 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 21, 2014, 12:51:32 PM
All very dogist omo.
Not all dogs are lazy.
You & I are getting owned here, Tom.
Yes, but it's like getting beaten up by a good boxer. Quick, clinical and relatively painless.
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