A Question of Rebuys

[Grier78]

Option 1 because it gives me an advantage over any player who doesn't re-buy straight away, gets above his starting stack, and then can't re-buy

me too

[Grier78]

If this is the rule then you may as well say 'the more money you have the more chance of gaining chips'. Effectively if you're loaded you can go all in every hand with double the chips because you're bound to catch a hand sooner or later.

I thought that was the point of re-buys, to get all of their money into the prize pool.

[bobAlike]

If this is the rule then you may as well say 'the more money you have the more chance of gaining chips'. Effectively if you're loaded you can go all in every hand with double the chips because you're bound to catch a hand sooner or later.

I thought that was the point of re-buys, to get all of their money into the prize pool.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind people topping up the prize pool but constant raisers spoil games especially when they raise with junk a catch a hand.

[pokerfan]

If this is the rule then you may as well say 'the more money you have the more chance of gaining chips'. Effectively if you're loaded you can go all in every hand with double the chips because you're bound to catch a hand sooner or later.

I thought that was the point of re-buys, to get all of their money into the prize pool.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind people topping up the prize pool but constant raisers spoil games especially when they raise with junk a catch a hand.

Its all about the money

[Chompy]

Is it not possible to let players buy a double stack at the start? Save everyone calling for chips straight away

[dik9]

Option 1 FTW!

[tikay]

Under option 1 can you re-buy twice in one go if you lose all of your chips in a hand? 

Yes.

Obviously the tournament should be structured with this in mind.

If this is the rule then you may as well say 'the more money you have the more chance of gaining chips'. Effectively if you're loaded you can go all in every hand with double the chips because you're bound to catch a hand sooner or later.

I prefer option 4. It teaches you how to grind properly. You can still buy in if you lose your chips.
I'm sure that's how Lord Micky of Wernick learnt to play a short stack so well.

Possibly, but I doubt it, somehow. I think his Short-Stack play is based on plain common-sense & good old patience, & positional awareness. Plus, a healthy disdain for the old wives tale that you are somehow obliged to push with any two once down to 10 x BB's.

But that's another story, & I don't really want to hijack this excellent thread.

[bolt pp]

Under option 1 can you re-buy twice in one go if you lose all of your chips in a hand? 

Yes.

Obviously the tournament should be structured with this in mind.

If this is the rule then you may as well say 'the more money you have the more chance of gaining chips'. Effectively if you're loaded you can go all in every hand with double the chips because you're bound to catch a hand sooner or later.

I prefer option 4. It teaches you how to grind properly. You can still buy in if you lose your chips.
I'm sure that's how Lord Micky of Wernick learnt to play a short stack so well.

Possibly, but I doubt it, somehow. I think his Short-Stack play is based on plain common-sense & good old patience, & positional awareness. Plus, a healthy disdain for the old wives tale that you are somehow obliged to push with any two once down to 10 x BB's.

But that's another story, & I don't really want to hijack this excellent thread.

be a rebel, hijack the thread!

[bobAlike]

Under option 1 can you re-buy twice in one go if you lose all of your chips in a hand? 

Yes.

Obviously the tournament should be structured with this in mind.

If this is the rule then you may as well say 'the more money you have the more chance of gaining chips'. Effectively if you're loaded you can go all in every hand with double the chips because you're bound to catch a hand sooner or later.

I prefer option 4. It teaches you how to grind properly. You can still buy in if you lose your chips.
I'm sure that's how Lord Micky of Wernick learnt to play a short stack so well.

Possibly, but I doubt it, somehow. I think his Short-Stack play is based on plain common-sense & good old patience, & positional awareness. Plus, a healthy disdain for the old wives tale that you are somehow obliged to push with any two once down to 10 x BB's.

But that's another story, & I don't really want to hijack this excellent thread.

be a rebel, hijack the thread!

+1

I'm sure Dewi wont mind.

[Royal Flush]

If this is the rule then you may as well say 'the more money you have the more chance of gaining chips'. Effectively if you're loaded you can go all in every hand with double the chips because you're bound to catch a hand sooner or later.

I thought that was the point of re-buys, to get all of their money into the prize pool.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind people topping up the prize pool but constant raisers spoil games especially when they raise with junk a catch a hand.

lol you on the windup?

Must be, wp sir, nearly got me to bite.

P.S. The best short stacked players are the ones who are not short stacked for long, the bad ones are the ones that are always short.

[Linux]

agree with flushy

[AlexMartin]

Under option 1 can you re-buy twice in one go if you lose all of your chips in a hand? 

Yes.

Obviously the tournament should be structured with this in mind.

If this is the rule then you may as well say 'the more money you have the more chance of gaining chips'. Effectively if you're loaded you can go all in every hand with double the chips because you're bound to catch a hand sooner or later.

I prefer option 4. It teaches you how to grind properly. You can still buy in if you lose your chips.
I'm sure that's how Lord Micky of Wernick learnt to play a short stack so well.

Possibly, but I doubt it, somehow. I think his Short-Stack play is based on plain common-sense & good old patience, & positional awareness. Plus, a healthy disdain for the old wives tale that you are somehow obliged to push with any two once down to 10 x BB's.

But that's another story, & I don't really want to hijack this excellent thread.

ur right, 10bb has no FE and only muppets would let themselves get so low, 15bb is better for open shoving, 20-25 for 3b shoving and 30< for open/folding.

[Simon Galloway]

P.S. The best short stacked players are the ones who are not short stacked for long, the bad ones are the ones that are always short.

true if they go from short stacked to average all the time.  Not true if they go from short stacked to broke all the time.

P.S my vote is for the order as presented - please bring back rebuys!

[Royal Flush]

P.S. The best short stacked players are the ones who are not short stacked for long, the bad ones are the ones that are always short.

true if they go from short stacked to average all the time.  Not true if they go from short stacked to broke all the time.

Ya obv, but if you go from short stacked to shot stacked then you are not playing a short stack well.