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Splash
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River all in 400NL - he's holding?
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July 16, 2012, 03:45:14 PM »
I'd been pretty active at the table 34/25 ... mateyboy was down as TAG 22/19 over few hundred hands no other real info... could not remember him getting out of line but got the feeling that a few were looking for a spot to play back. Checked the turn trying induce.. my CBet was 93%
Seat 3: iliketennis1 ($547.20)
Seat 4: Amaterasu-_- ($396)
Seat 8: Hero ($1,162.55)
Seat 9: prakiera ($432)
Seat 10: AngeI0fDeath ($389)
Amaterasu-_- posts small blind ($2)
Hero posts big blind ($4)
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Dealing pocket cards
Dealing to Hero: [
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prakiera folds
AngeI0fDeath folds
iliketennis1 raises $8 to $8
Amaterasu-_- folds
Hero raises $24 to $28
iliketennis1 calls $20
--- Dealing flop [
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Hero bets $34
iliketennis1 calls $34
--- Dealing turn [
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Hero checks
iliketennis1 checks
--- Dealing river
Hero bets $88
iliketennis1 raises $485.20 to $485.20 [all in]
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NigDawG
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Re: River all in 400NL - he's holding?
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July 16, 2012, 04:20:41 PM »
i wouldn't fold but then i don't really like folding
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Re: River all in 400NL - he's holding?
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July 16, 2012, 04:47:53 PM »
idk if hes turning anything into a bluff v you here, seems like his purefloats bet the turn often also. deffo bet turn though for sure, dislike check/anything here with your image.
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pleno1
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Re: River all in 400NL - he's holding?
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July 16, 2012, 05:06:31 PM »
peeling pre should be at least considered.
flop sizing is good.
turn is a clear barrel, if we arent 3 barrelling aq here then your ranges are just going to be so fucked up and you're going to get owned. checking here is massive FPS.
He just always has 10s full otr
I don't like sizing though, either 42/call or c/call/r
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: River all in 400NL - he's holding?
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July 16, 2012, 05:21:50 PM »
I convinced myself TT and let it go... fair point on the turn and would normally fire 99% of the time i think. With the table hist and my image thought he may do something silly if i checked it.
FWIW had to google FPS and finally found it after drawing a line through Frames Per Second and France Poker Series
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Re: River all in 400NL - he's holding?
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July 16, 2012, 05:39:35 PM »
yer it sounds like a float to me.
1010 is possible
maybe evan 44
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July 16, 2012, 05:41:24 PM »
Spalsh....just thought I'd say.............
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Bully87
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Re: River all in 400NL - he's holding?
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July 16, 2012, 06:17:49 PM »
Why are we not betting the turn?
If your image is to be out of line then they aren't going to get fancy with you too often.
Folding, but hating it.
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DMorgan
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Re: River all in 400NL - he's holding?
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July 16, 2012, 06:52:29 PM »
Definitely should be 3barrelling this. You don't rep a bluff ever ever when you 3b/bet/check/bet this texture
As for the river, I wouldn't make a habit of putting players with TAGish stats on big overbet bluffs vs uncapped ranges.
I'd expect him to just have TT here always
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Quote from: The_nun on July 16, 2012, 05:41:24 PM
Spalsh....just thought I'd say.............
Hi Maureen
how's u?
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Re: River all in 400NL - he's holding?
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July 17, 2012, 04:33:24 PM »
100% fold. People just don't bluff rivers, they literally just don't.
much prefer chk/call than bet after we've checked the turn think we're way more liekly to induce a small stab from something like a spade draw(67 if he ever has it, prolly not) or maybe some A high hands (AJ primarily) there is a decent chance we'd fold some smaller 1p's hands and defo folding AK if he bets this river, speshly if he doesn't auto bomb turned draws OTT.
Just betting the turn then deciding what you wanna do based on the river card would be my preferential line though, for reasons explained, plus the board is pretty wet and our hand is kind of venreable so protecting our equity should be a consideration also.
IDK if your Cbet % is always this high, 93% or just from this table, if it is then that defo seems too high.
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Re: River all in 400NL - he's holding?
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July 17, 2012, 06:01:52 PM »
i actually think we should call thinking about it, vs our sizing people wont jam bad flushes, we have the
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He can have 10's, but he probably just bets on turn when we check to him as double flush draw board.
He will also bet sets here so I just wtf/calll acutally.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: River all in 400NL - he's holding?
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July 17, 2012, 07:14:59 PM »
do people ever actually bluff here though? I know in theory its super thin but....I fold these spots all the time, then every once in a while get the cape on and just always get shown boats.
If i could take back EVERY river call I've ever made, including the times someone has gone all in and ive called and won, I think I'd have a lot more money than i do now.
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