Advice needed! Building a roll (initially) outside of BRM

[LovesADraw]

Hi All,

This may be an impossible/stupid question so I'm prepared for a slating (try to be nice) but...

I'm really working on building a roll playing live; regular pub leagues (crap shoots), £50/£60 casino tourneys and £1/£1 casino cash whenever I can get to the card room. The problem being that many of these games are well outside of BRM for my current 1k roll.

It feels like the only way I can build it up is hitting the cash and hoping for a big session but this is putting such a large proportion of my roll at risk everytime and that's how I've gone broke before.

I know that one option would try to grind the micro/small stakes online but unfortunately job/life just won't allow it at the moment.

Any advise is most welcome people!

Thanks

[muckthenuts]

If i was in your shoes i'd grind 20nl-50nl online cash games until my roll was 2k.

Then i'd take that shit to a £1-2 table in London and spin the 10bi's up.

Boom, now i have 5k



If you don't make it the first time, rinse and repeat til it comes off.

GL

[LovesADraw]

If i was in your shoes i'd grind 20nl-50nl online cash games until my roll was 2k.

Then i'd take that shit to a £1-2 table in London and spin the 10bi's up.

Boom, now i have 5k



If you don't make it the first time, rinse and repeat til it comes off.

GL

Haha some valuable insights here... thanks it's more luck than judgement though :p

[Ransom]

Personally I'd put $1000 online (which is about £650 at this point in time I think) and play 25NL, mix in some shots at 50nl at $1500 and continue upwards from there. Have a bash at the low buyin comps that have decent guarantees as well ($2.20-$11)

Keep the other £350, spend £40 of it on Poker Tracker/Holdem Manager. Flick in £5 a month for a RunItOnce subscription, get a decent sized monitor and a comfy computer chair and that would be me set.

Seeing as you mention work/life balance won't allow you to spend your time grinding smaller stakes online, I guess the only other option is to find a juicy looking cash game, buy in for an amount you're comfortable with just go for it. Can be quite high variance depending where you play though, as £1/£1 has a tendency to turn in to a triple straddled drunk punt-a-thon.

11am Tuesday Morning at the Vic with the old geezers and loyalty freeroll chasers - low variance
2am Friday/Saturday Night at the Luton G - high variance

Could always save up a bit of money each month until you had a more comfortable £2k roll for £1/£1 live, but then to me playing with money you've worked for isn't as comfortable as playing with money you've won.

[Rupert]

What you're doing seems like a pretty good idea, probably not that big of a BRM mistake. Beware of the online cash game suggestions, they are tough (even at the small stakes) and have a huge learning curve which I am going to hazard a guess at you being very far behind. Consider trying to obtain a Run It Once account or something

[POWWWWWWWW]

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[verndog158]

tough, as if you cant play online then most options live are going to be harsh on the BRM i think. if u cant grind cash online, certainly think it would be worth depositing £200 on Party Poker or another site, and try satting into a big comp on te cheap, always gives you a chance of a big score, if you run good one weekend etc

[edgascoigne]

Play live exclusively, not even close.

You'rw probably 4/7 to get off and running for your current money if any good, which means if having a couple of cracks you should be going at it soon enough.

For context I have half a brain and zero poker talent so that is my benchmark. Don't get into ego wars, look for low variance plays and remember your ultimate goal is to grind to 4k. Infinitely easier live than online so suck up the boredom and grind it out.

Good luck!!

[pleno1]

Play spin n gos. If you bust it's very easy to get staked

[LovesADraw]

Thanks all for the advice.

I think my main leak is 1/1 cash... I mainly play at Aspers Stratford Friday and Saturday nights (unfortunately the only time I really get at the mo). 9 times out of 10 my downfall is over thinking a hand and hero calling a drunk who I think is bluffing/bullying/hasn't got a clue.

Any advice for exploiting these splashy, drunk, loose passive types? I find it really hard to range them when they're playing 90% of hands and always calling a c bet. I feel like it can be a catch 22; making it expensive for them to call bloats the pot without getting a read on their hand and playing passive gives them a chance to catch a hand with their any two...

Thanks again people

(And yes in know Aspers isn't the best casino but it's the easiest for me to get to....)

[baldock92]

Thanks all for the advice.

I think my main leak is 1/1 cash... I mainly play at Aspers Stratford Friday and Saturday nights (unfortunately the only time I really get at the mo). 9 times out of 10 my downfall is over thinking a hand and hero calling a drunk who I think is bluffing/bullying/hasn't got a clue.

Any advice for exploiting these splashy, drunk, loose passive types? I find it really hard to range them when they're playing 90% of hands and always calling a c bet. I feel like it can be a catch 22; making it expensive for them to call bloats the pot without getting a read on their hand and playing passive gives them a chance to catch a hand with their any two...

Thanks again people

(And yes in know Aspers isn't the best casino but it's the easiest for me to get to....)

Stop paying these people off with marginal hands. If they are bloating the pot as you say, when you're holding the goods make sure you squeeze every bit of value out of them. It's not a case of "if you can't beat them join them", if they're playing "splashy, drunk, loose" as you say then just tighten up, no shame in it whatsoever- it's adapting to the situation.

[POWWWWWWWW]

Does the ROE game still run at aspers?

[verndog158]

Don't bluff and don't feel the need to hero call. Games are very good there and soft enough that low variance lines will win you plenty.

[LovesADraw]

Does the ROE game still run at aspers?

What was the ROE game?

[verndog158]

Does the ROE game still run at aspers?

What was the ROE game?

Round of each, PLO and NlH