Off The Felt with Dan Bilzerian

[AndrewT]

Might it be that, online, even if someone throws their chips around, you can fairly quickly tell through tracking software if they're actually any good or not. Whereas live, it might not be so easy to tell the difference, so the guy who is actually very good gets labelled as lucky for far longer than he should do, and so gets the action.

[titaniumbean]

ya the guy who inherited a large quantity of stolen money is def prob a super calculating winner at poker too, or it just doesn't matter if he wins or not.

[Doobs]

Might it be that, online, even if someone throws their chips around, you can fairly quickly tell through tracking software if they're actually any good or not. Whereas live, it might not be so easy to tell the difference, so the guy who is actually very good gets labelled as lucky for far longer than he should do, and so gets the action.

One tabling, you are going to notice somebody in virtually every pot, or that they are 3 betting way more than they should or chetting every time they raise pre.

David made the point these fellas who travel to play him were pros.  I can see how somebody up for the weekend with a large cocktail in his hand might not notice betting tendencies of his fellow players, but your average pro should be able to work this out without software to help.   You are going to be pretty clear on most of this before you start hopping on a plane to play the big fish otherwise you aren't getting that ticket.  And surely the most terrible of live pros is going to realise old big mouth is actually a winner long before they lose all their money?  Even it they can't quite do counting, most are going to be able to google him and realise he has got chunks. 

The way I see it is there is one really strong probable reason he has loads of money and one that seems to be inconsistent with a lot of things I have witnessed in poker. 

[Marky147]

Wins in massive games with guys who are giving him a spin, and loses in smaller games to pros who he likes to sit and flaunt his wealth to?

[Fenix35]

He posted this image relatively recently on his instagram, looks like a $10mill rack at Aria - gulp!

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[The Soldier]

I doubt that he's lying about anything. These wealthy businessmen probably invite him to their poker games as he adds value in non-poker related areas - I.e. knowing playboy girls and being able to run a decent party. He probably has a trust fund that he can fall back on if his larger than life "one time" spin/run comes to an end.

[redarmi]

I doubt that he's lying about anything. These wealthy businessmen probably invite him to their poker games as he adds value in non-poker related areas - I.e. knowing playboy girls and being able to run a decent party. He probably has a trust fund that he can fall back on if his larger than life "one time" spin/run comes to an end.

I somehow doubt wealthy businessmen and sport stars struggle to meet girls or with getting invites to decent parties.

[Tal]

Lot of jealousy ITT

MAN GOT RACK!

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[The Soldier]

I doubt that he's lying about anything. These wealthy businessmen probably invite him to their poker games as he adds value in non-poker related areas - I.e. knowing playboy girls and being able to run a decent party. He probably has a trust fund that he can fall back on if his larger than life "one time" spin/run comes to an end.

I somehow doubt wealthy businessmen and sport stars struggle to meet girls or with getting invites to decent parties.

Not all wealthy businessmen are 30 years old, good looking, sporty and social ninjas. The vast majority are probably the opposite. If he’s taking a lot from these ‘big games’ then there must be a reason why they keep inviting him back. Maybe it’s his personality. I’m only speculating.

[The Soldier]

Haha no you got a link?

[teamonkey]

He got through SEAL training the same way i passed selection.............


but he does appear to have a rather exuberant lifestyle, fair play to him

like someone else said earlier, "haters gonna hate"

if you dont like reading about what he's done or claims to do, then dont read about it


PS, i never passed selection

PPS, i didnt even dream about picking up a pen and aplying for it, not my style

[Royal Flush]

It's cute how people still think that the biggest games happen in casinos or even that people crushing online come even close to big winners in live games.

He started with a lot of money, he has a lot of fun, he plays very high stakes poker against people who have no clue and wins a lot, this money is not really that relevant to the starting float. He then messes about in what Internet warriors think are the 'biggest games' and drops what might only be 20 bigs in respect to other games he plays.

He had $1m from Jay not 2.

The biggest games I'm sure are still in the USA, not just in reference to this but games like the one where Tony Greg made 8 figs, the games Noah plays in Florida etc

[SuuPRlim]

I believe he has made $50m from poker, and he will be the biggest nit you know, with no game.

100% false, he is certainly not a nit.

I can see how having no respect for his game isn't the best mindset for playing against him, but still don't get why pros would travel miles to play him if he is really good and winning heaps.  

He's not a very good poker player, luckily though he is wealthy enough to afford to lose every time he plays till he dies, and even more fortunately the games he plays in are filled with majority of people who are worse at poker than him, and are very high stakes. So he does alrite ;-) certainly has won/will win more money from the game than I will/have by a significant multiplier - and ofc you get no prizes or medals for great cardsmanship at th end of the day, you either get the money or you don't.

That wasn't my point really though, I think he is kinda classless with the hole twitter/Instagram braggy carry on, he did donate $100k to 10 gd causes through a twitter stunt in December so credit for that but in general that's my opinion of him.

You never know though I might go for dinner with him one day and find I'm completely wrong, as my opinions are only formed on about 5 playing experiences and from his social media performance.but defo struck me to have a real chip n his shoulder towards pro poker players.

[lucky_scrote]

He's probably a douche, but he's great entertainment. Not sure what people want from the internet and reading social media.

[GreekStein]

The biggest games I'm sure are still in the USA, not just in reference to this but games like the one where Tony Greg made 8 figs, the games Noah plays in Florida etc

Blinds?