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WSOP Event # 7, $1,000 NLH with REBUYS
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June 09, 2005, 01:03:06 AM »
Another text in from Dave who is, I am sorry to tell you, still unwell.
"350 left in today's $1,000 NLH Rebuy. I think over 900 started, & about 350 are left. I am ave chips".
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Followed by another.....
"Daniel Negraneu had 12 rebuys. He did several live straddles "all-in" & won two of them".
Poker skill at it's best, eh?
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Quote from: tikay on June 09, 2005, 01:05:06 AM
Followed by another.....
"Daniel Negraneu had 12 rebuys. He did several live straddles "all-in" & won two of them".
Poker skill at it's best, eh?
cheaper than last years 24 rebuys he is improving
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June 09, 2005, 01:12:19 AM »
I think that's obscene. "Who's got the deepest pocket" poker.
Respect? No way.
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June 09, 2005, 01:19:49 AM »
he was quoted as saying he wanted alot of chips on his table after the rebuys if he had to supply them no problem
think he had to finish top 8 to get his money back
he was trying to buy a bracelet but failed at the final hurdle with 3rd place
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June 09, 2005, 01:24:34 AM »
How sad........
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June 09, 2005, 02:25:08 AM »
I've seen other well known English pro's take exactly the same approach in a 200 rebuy.
What's the difference?
Just cuz Negranu can afford it at the higher level don't make him different.
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June 09, 2005, 02:28:30 AM »
There is no difference. I don't think its the right way to play whether they be Ameican or English or anythingelseish. Sticking your entire stack in blind hand after hand has no skill whatsoever. I feel exactly the same about any guys who do it.
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i think you missed the implication there Tikay..............i was talking about a table i shared with Dave Colclough, Julian Thew and Scandie WHU champ.
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June 09, 2005, 02:46:28 AM »
I agree with you Tikay. Thats why there is a rise in the popularity of Freezeouts. A level playingfield against the sponsored players!
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June 09, 2005, 02:48:15 AM »
Yes, I maybe did.
But I know for sure that Thewy would never go all-in blind hand after hand in a 200 comp, he just wouldent. And his sponsor certainly does not pay his rebuys.
Same remarks appliy to Dave Colclough, he pays for hs own entries, & I've never seen him go all-in blind repeatedly.
Scandie WHU Champ. Is that Gunnarson you are referring to? I don't know the guy, so cant comment.
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June 09, 2005, 02:53:49 AM »
Welcome to blonde James, keep them posts coming!
Freezeouts are definitely fairer, but there is room for rebuys, but not, in my opinion, Negranua style. Apparently he plonked $10,000 on the table tonight & grandly announced he had plenty more where that came from, & was prepared to use it.
My point is I think poker is a mixture of skill & luck, & what Daniel did tonight (and in the same event last year) is 100% luck. And it hardly gives the regular guys an equal chance.
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June 09, 2005, 03:04:08 AM »
Dave just called. He said he has made it to the dinner break, along with a mere 170 or so others. He thinks the comp has made around $2,300,000. Wow!
Dave has 7,000 - slightly low compared to average - but he says he's comfy with that stack, given that blinds are only 200-400, with a running ante of 50.
He's still not feeliing well, but a shot at a bracelet & the fat end of a million bucks may make him perk up.......
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June 09, 2005, 03:04:31 AM »
Thewey called for all his chips twice, and both times hit runner runner for a diamond flush (queen diamonds).
He had no draw, it was all he could win with!!
Likewise DC had 4 or 5 rebuys and bet 750 on the last rebuy hand, was reraised and folded saying " i only did that so i could have a rebuy and topup".
Irrelevant whether they pay or not, they obviously could afford it and so an unfair advantage there is.
I know they are both pals and i don't criticize it as such but it's the same thing as negranu.
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June 09, 2005, 03:20:49 AM »
But I don't think it is, though I grant you I am in an awkward spot here, because they are both close buddies of mine.
The massive difference is that Negranau (if I spell his name enough times I will get it right eventually) was going all-in blind, for his entire stack, pre-flop, every hand.
In a 200 rebuy, Thewy generally limits himself to 2 rebuys, 3 maximum, but don't tell his missus that!
The example you give of Dave having 4 or 5 rebuys sounds about right, but he did NOT repeatedly go all-in blind pre-flop. And for sure, on the last hand before the freeze, it's common practice for players to play that hand "strategically", to optimise their buy-in/add-on situation.
I take your point, I really do, but I just think it's a significantly different thing that Daniel (there, Daniel is easier to spell), was doing - sticking all his chips in pre-deal, never mind pre-flop, & not even looking at his cards.
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