£1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY

[Dubai]

i went into casino other day and saw this chap he had £100 straight up on number 26 black. It came straight in. he is the best roulette player i ever saw .

Not everybody can be as great as you Paul..

that sounds a bit nasty ben . not unexpected though.

not up to your usuual insightful and knowledgable analysis but at least confirms what i thought.

ty

This aint really needed. Ben is a young lad doing a decent job here.

[Djinn]

Colin Kennedy doubles up to a new chip high of over 160k... His opponent's  hit the  flop, but not as well as Kennedy's  !

Could the quiet one be making his move now that his stack is of threatening proportions?

Wooooohoooooo go on my cocker !!!

He's been getting quite a bit of luck against Marc Goodwin (his was the AK in that hand) - earlier he was just moving in on Marc's big blind from the small blind every time, and Marc eventually caught his out with ... but he escaped by spiking the Queen. 

[Sunday8pm]

Colchester Kev has just entered the building but has unfortunatley run out of chips. Its ok though, he had a rebuy and currently has 3 pies and 1 JD and coke

[actionjack]

i went into casino other day and saw this chap he had £100 straight up on number 26 black. It came straight in. he is the best roulette player i ever saw .

Not everybody can be as great as you Paul..

that sounds a bit nasty ben . not unexpected though.


not up to your usuual insightful and knowledgable analysis but at least confirms what i thought.

ty

This aint really needed. Ben is a young lad doing a decent job here.

i thought his job was to pass on info not make snide comments no doubt had he said similar to you when you expressed an opinion you would react better than i did .
sorry

[Highstack]

I think its a standard trap call him down once the turn is the King. No need to raise at any point against a lunatic. Just sit back and let him donk them all off.

I agree

The fold is not the problem I would have thought as he is clueless as to where he was in the hand. The problem was that he never asked the question to find out. A decent position raise on the flop would have in order and he could have taken it down there.

How can he 'find out' when any raise commits him to the pot, as Dubai says here:

Cant see any reason to raise against a lunatic. Particularly given the turn card.

No point to raise against someone who will fire 3 bullets with T hi.....

My mistake obviously he told everyone he had ten high and would keep betting!!!!

He was the shorter stack, it was a nice pot and he ended up with a tough decision for his tournament life that he passed and gave away 70k.

[Newmanseye]

I think its a standard trap call him down once the turn is the King. No need to raise at any point against a lunatic. Just sit back and let him donk them all off.

I agree

The fold is not the problem I would have thought as he is clueless as to where he was in the hand. The problem was that he never asked the question to find out. A decent position raise on the flop would have in order and he could have taken it down there.

How can he 'find out' when any raise commits him to the pot, as Dubai says here:

Cant see any reason to raise against a lunatic. Particularly given the turn card.

No point to raise against someone who will fire 3 bullets with T hi.....

Well in that case why bother calling with the 6 on the flop or the king on the turn, if he was not going to shove his money in against a maniac with 2 pair whats he going to shove it in with.  If he was worried about the flush, a raise may give you info from some facial tell, or a hand stalling ove the chips, its not all betting patterns.

Had it been me against this nutter, I would have chucked them in.

[Karabiner]

It's clouding over a bit here what's the weather like down South ?

[Djinn]

***********************************Hour dinner break*******************************

Announcement just made that when they come back, it's back to 1hr levels for one hour, then 45 minutes after one level of that.

So - to recap on the changes:  Started 45 mins for 2 levels, then 1hr.  Day 2 - 90 mins.  Day 3 - 90 mins, then 1hr, then 45 mins. 

The question I would like to raise again is:  "Why not save the scramble tonight by playing down to the final yesterday?"

Mull on that - back at 8:30pm.

[AndrewT]

When the King falls on the turn, Nik should have realised that card was his Rubicon. If he calls Jan's turn bet, then there is no getting away from the hand.

[Sunday8pm]

I think its a standard trap call him down once the turn is the King. No need to raise at any point against a lunatic. Just sit back and let him donk them all off.

I agree

The fold is not the problem I would have thought as he is clueless as to where he was in the hand. The problem was that he never asked the question to find out. A decent position raise on the flop would have in order and he could have taken it down there.

How can he 'find out' when any raise commits him to the pot, as Dubai says here:

Cant see any reason to raise against a lunatic. Particularly given the turn card.

No point to raise against someone who will fire 3 bullets with T hi.....

Well in that case why bother calling with the 6 on the flop or the king on the turn, if he was not going to shove his money in against a maniac with 2 pair whats he going to shove it in with.  If he was worried about the flush, a raise may give you info from some facial tell, or a hand stalling ove the chips, its not all betting patterns.

Had it been me against this nutter, I would have chucked them in.

Thats what we can't work out newmanseye!

[Royal Flush]

I think its a standard trap call him down once the turn is the King. No need to raise at any point against a lunatic. Just sit back and let him donk them all off.

I agree

The fold is not the problem I would have thought as he is clueless as to where he was in the hand. The problem was that he never asked the question to find out. A decent position raise on the flop would have in order and he could have taken it down there.

How can he 'find out' when any raise commits him to the pot, as Dubai says here:

Cant see any reason to raise against a lunatic. Particularly given the turn card.

No point to raise against someone who will fire 3 bullets with T hi.....

Well in that case why bother calling with the 6 on the flop or the king on the turn, if he was not going to shove his money in against a maniac with 2 pair whats he going to shove it in with.  If he was worried about the flush, a raise may give you info from some facial tell, or a hand stalling ove the chips, its not all betting patterns.

Had it been me against this nutter, I would have chucked them in.

Of course i call on the end. My question is how can he raise on the turn without going all in, what use is a tell if you are all in?!!??!?!?!

[sofa----king]

I think its a standard trap call him down once the turn is the King. No need to raise at any point against a lunatic. Just sit back and let him donk them all off.

I agree

The fold is not the problem I would have thought as he is clueless as to where he was in the hand. The problem was that he never asked the question to find out. A decent position raise on the flop would have in order and he could have taken it down there.

How can he 'find out' when any raise commits him to the pot, as Dubai says here:

Cant see any reason to raise against a lunatic. Particularly given the turn card.

No point to raise against someone who will fire 3 bullets with T hi.....

Well in that case why bother calling with the 6 on the flop or the king on the turn, if he was not going to shove his money in against a maniac with 2 pair whats he going to shove it in with.  If he was worried about the flush, a raise may give you info from some facial tell, or a hand stalling ove the chips, its not all betting patterns.

Had it been me against this nutter, I would have chucked them in.

my opinion the guy just didnt want that very very slim chance of going out ,he probably thoght he was a mile infront but for 1 slight moment he decided to pass and i think deep down before he seen jans cards he was infront,so being polite i dont think he had the balls to stick them in ,without being too rude...

[Karabiner]

***********************************Hour dinner break*******************************

Announcement just made that when they come back, it's back to 1hr levels for one hour, then 45 minutes after one level of that.

So - to recap on the changes:  Started 45 mins for 2 levels, then 1hr.  Day 2 - 90 mins.  Day 3 - 90 mins, then 1hr, then 45 mins. 

The question I would like to raise again is:  "Why not save the scramble tonight by playing down to the final yesterday?"

Mull on that - back at 8:30pm.

One hour levels all the way through might have been a cunning innovation 

[Junior Senior]

***********************************Hour dinner break*******************************

Announcement just made that when they come back, it's back to 1hr levels for one hour, then 45 minutes after one level of that.

So - to recap on the changes:  Started 45 mins for 2 levels, then 1hr.  Day 2 - 90 mins.  Day 3 - 90 mins, then 1hr, then 45 mins. 

The question I would like to raise again is:  "Why not save the scramble tonight by playing down to the final yesterday?"

Mull on that - back at 8:30pm.

its gonna be a rubbish crap shot at the business end then?!!!! - shite!

[Highstack]

When the King falls on the turn, Nik should have realised that card was his Rubicon. If he calls Jan's turn bet, then there is no getting away from the hand.

No one is disputing this unless he was scared of the unlikely flush draw bet. The criticism was why not raise the flop to avoid any potential heartache? (at that stage he didn't know the K was coming!)