Scotland v England

[Ironside]

If Sky hadn't bankrolled the EPL our national team would be far better

would be far less overseas players, far more more domestic players getting into starting line ups and the champions league and more of our top players would have gone to play abroad, helping them to become world class

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the result of this game would have been different if it had been a) a competitive fixture such as a major event qualifier b) played before the Ireland game as a warm up

As it was England won comfortably as Scotland's terrific result againt Ireland took a lot out of the team

the man speaks sense

[buzzharvey22]

Wor Hadrian had the right idea.

[Ironside]

Wor Hadrian had the right idea.

yeah build a wall stop you guys robbing us blind

[George2Loose]

Hmmm, not sure if many of these posts are trying to level Iron. 

England deserved to win no doubt but it was hardly emphatic.  That was England at their best imo, they don't get much better as has been seen in the last number of major tournaments they have been in. 

The entitlement that runs through many England fans is astonishing.  You have the most over hyped leage in the world, your best players aren't that great.  I generally can't recall the last world class player who was home grown who actually achieved anything, Becks perhaps? 

At least we Scots know we're shit and accept it.  But if there was a fair split of the revenues going into Scotland/Wales/NI leagues and Sky hadn't bankrolled the EPL things would be far dfferent. 

I don't think are any good at all. Worst england team I can remember. But this awful england team still made light work of Scotland.

[Kmac84]

Hmmm, not sure if many of these posts are trying to level Iron. 

England deserved to win no doubt but it was hardly emphatic.  That was England at their best imo, they don't get much better as has been seen in the last number of major tournaments they have been in. 

The entitlement that runs through many England fans is astonishing.  You have the most over hyped leage in the world, your best players aren't that great.  I generally can't recall the last world class player who was home grown who actually achieved anything, Becks perhaps? 

At least we Scots know we're shit and accept it.  But if there was a fair split of the revenues going into Scotland/Wales/NI leagues and Sky hadn't bankrolled the EPL things would be far dfferent. 

I don't think are any good at all. Worst england team I can remember. But this awful england team still made light work of Scotland.

I wouldn't say it was light work.  Best team on night won though. 

[Nakor]

Hmmm, not sure if many of these posts are trying to level Iron. 

England deserved to win no doubt but it was hardly emphatic.  That was England at their best imo, they don't get much better as has been seen in the last number of major tournaments they have been in. 

The entitlement that runs through many England fans is astonishing.  You have the most over hyped leage in the world, your best players aren't that great.  I generally can't recall the last world class player who was home grown who actually achieved anything, Becks perhaps? 

At least we Scots know we're shit and accept it.  But if there was a fair split of the revenues going into Scotland/Wales/NI leagues and Sky hadn't bankrolled the EPL things would be far dfferent. 

I don't think are any good at all. Worst england team I can remember. But this awful england team still made light work of Scotland.

How old are you George?

Graham Taylor picked;

Flowers,
Earl Barrett
Tony Dorigo
Pallister
Andy Sinton
Carlton Palmer
Ripley
Nigel Clough
Alan Smith

They were dark days indeed.

[arbboy]

Hmmm, not sure if many of these posts are trying to level Iron. 

England deserved to win no doubt but it was hardly emphatic.  That was England at their best imo, they don't get much better as has been seen in the last number of major tournaments they have been in. 

The entitlement that runs through many England fans is astonishing.  You have the most over hyped leage in the world, your best players aren't that great.  I generally can't recall the last world class player who was home grown who actually achieved anything, Becks perhaps? 

At least we Scots know we're shit and accept it.  But if there was a fair split of the revenues going into Scotland/Wales/NI leagues and Sky hadn't bankrolled the EPL things would be far dfferent. 

I don't think are any good at all. Worst england team I can remember. But this awful england team still made light work of Scotland.

How old are you George?

Graham Taylor picked;

Flowers,
Earl Barrett
Tony Dorigo
Pallister
Andy Sinton
Carlton Palmer
Ripley
Nigel Clough
Alan Smith

They were dark days indeed.

amazing looking back at some of the characters who won england caps!

[DungBeetle]

Taylor made some strange picks, but I don't remember that team being so bad.  The match where we lost 2-0 to Holland to fail to qualify for the world cup I remember us playing really well till we went behind.  Mind you I've just remembered how bad we were losing 2-0 to Norway. 

[The Camel]

Hmmm, not sure if many of these posts are trying to level Iron. 

England deserved to win no doubt but it was hardly emphatic.  That was England at their best imo, they don't get much better as has been seen in the last number of major tournaments they have been in. 

The entitlement that runs through many England fans is astonishing.  You have the most over hyped leage in the world, your best players aren't that great.  I generally can't recall the last world class player who was home grown who actually achieved anything, Becks perhaps? 

At least we Scots know we're shit and accept it.  But if there was a fair split of the revenues going into Scotland/Wales/NI leagues and Sky hadn't bankrolled the EPL things would be far dfferent. 

I don't think are any good at all. Worst england team I can remember. But this awful england team still made light work of Scotland.

How old are you George?

Graham Taylor picked;

Flowers,
Earl Barrett
Tony Dorigo
Pallister
Andy Sinton
Carlton Palmer
Ripley
Nigel Clough
Alan Smith

They were dark days indeed.

amazing looking back at some of the characters who won england caps!

How dare you include Andy Sinton in that list.

The tricky wing wizard deserved to win 75 caps.






















(In my opinion)

[tikay]

Hmmm, not sure if many of these posts are trying to level Iron. 

England deserved to win no doubt but it was hardly emphatic.  That was England at their best imo, they don't get much better as has been seen in the last number of major tournaments they have been in. 

The entitlement that runs through many England fans is astonishing.  You have the most over hyped leage in the world, your best players aren't that great.  I generally can't recall the last world class player who was home grown who actually achieved anything, Becks perhaps? 

At least we Scots know we're shit and accept it.  But if there was a fair split of the revenues going into Scotland/Wales/NI leagues and Sky hadn't bankrolled the EPL things would be far dfferent. 

I don't think are any good at all. Worst england team I can remember. But this awful england team still made light work of Scotland.

How old are you George?

Graham Taylor picked;

Flowers,
Earl Barrett
Tony Dorigo
Pallister
Andy Sinton
Carlton Palmer
Ripley
Nigel Clough
Alan Smith

They were dark days indeed.

amazing looking back at some of the characters who won england caps!

How dare you include Andy Sinton in that list.

The tricky wing wizard deserved to win 75 caps.






















(In my opinion)

Carlton Palmer though.

[redsimon]

Nigel Clough hardly proves your thesis about Taylor tbh

[DungBeetle]

Sinton was one of my favourite players as a youngster.  Remember that QPR team well - Sinton, Big Les, Bardsley, Clive Wilson, Wilkins, Holloway, Barker.  Nice team to watch.

[Kmac84]

Tim Flowers was a decent goalkeeper for the majority of the times, sure he had some howlers but most keepers throw in a wobbler now and then.  

Tony Dorrigo was a good left back, Pallister in is prime was a decent centre half the problem was the partnership imo at international level.  Ripley was decent from what I remember I'd suggest England never really played to hs strengths.  

[Archer]

Hmmm, not sure if many of these posts are trying to level Iron. 

England deserved to win no doubt but it was hardly emphatic.  That was England at their best imo, they don't get much better as has been seen in the last number of major tournaments they have been in. 

The entitlement that runs through many England fans is astonishing.  You have the most over hyped leage in the world, your best players aren't that great.  I generally can't recall the last world class player who was home grown who actually achieved anything, Becks perhaps? 

At least we Scots know we're shit and accept it.  But if there was a fair split of the revenues going into Scotland/Wales/NI leagues and Sky hadn't bankrolled the EPL things would be far dfferent. 

I don't think are any good at all. Worst england team I can remember. But this awful england team still made light work of Scotland.

How old are you George?

Graham Taylor picked;

Flowers,
Earl Barrett
Tony Dorigo
Pallister
Andy Sinton
Carlton Palmer
Ripley
Nigel Clough
Alan Smith

They were dark days indeed.

Interesting choice of players. Some pretty good IMO.

No doubt we will be able to look back at Hodgson's time and do the same thing. Amazing stat I heard the other night was that 60 players have won caps in his 2 1/2 years at the helm. Most are still playing in the Premier League.

http://www.englandfootballonline.com/teammgr/Mgr_HodgsonPlyrsApps.html

[The Camel]

Sinton was one of my favourite players as a youngster.  Remember that QPR team well - Sinton, Big Les, Bardsley, Clive Wilson, Wilkins, Holloway, Barker.  Nice team to watch.

Wilson was fantastic. A Rolls Royce of a player.

Unruffled, never gave the ball away, quick and intelligent.

And never missed penalties.