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Title: JJ in MTT
Post by: rossfourfive on March 04, 2008, 09:19:12 PM
Just had this hand in a $5 donkament on Party.

Have only seen around 10 hands at this table so poker tracker stats don't have much meaning but villians are running at:

duckeyboy118 35/15
gosha999111 65/0

Neither has been involved in any significant hands.
I'd be interested in your thoughts on how i played the hand.

***** Hand History for Game 6844846438 *****
NL Texas Hold'em  Trny: 38797689 Level: 2   Blinds(30/60) - Tuesday, March 04, 16:01:14 ET 2008
Table Regular (1346046) Table #44 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: duckeyboy118 ( 2,920 )
Seat 2: jenniferJK ( 2,880 )
Seat 4: gosha999111 ( 5,210 )
Seat 5: PumpingJack ( 2,320 )
Seat 7: rossfourfive ( 5,820 )
Seat 8: seymor_007 ( 4,830 )
Seat 9: Johnny8393 ( 7,870 )
Seat 10: poppi226 ( 2,690 )
Seat 3: Sash1711 ( 3,860 )
Seat 6: ilona26111 ( 1,940 )
Trny: 38797689 Level: 2
Blinds(30/60)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to rossfourfive [  Js Jc ]
PumpingJack calls [60]
ilona26111 folds.
rossfourfive raises [240]
seymor_007 folds.
Johnny8393 folds.
poppi226 folds.
duckeyboy118 raises [1,020]
jenniferJK folds.
Sash1711 folds.
gosha999111 calls [960]
PumpingJack folds.
rossfourfive calls [780]

Pre flop - Should i be pushing all in here or does the call from gosha merit just the call?

** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 4d, 3s ]
gosha999111 checks.
rossfourfive checks.
duckeyboy118 is all-In.
gosha999111 calls [1,900]

Flop - should i be betting out on a flop like this? When duckeyboy moves in i'm intending on calling putting him on AK maybe, but when gosha calls im not as confident


Title: Re: JJ in MTT
Post by: dan on March 04, 2008, 09:40:28 PM
I think you should fole pre flop Duckyboy isnt putting the reraise in for over 30% of his stack with anything you can beat and with gosha in aswell I think its definetly a fold


Title: Re: JJ in MTT
Post by: Longy on March 04, 2008, 11:51:02 PM
I think you should fole pre flop Duckyboy isnt putting the reraise in for over 30% of his stack with anything you can beat and with gosha in aswell I think its definetly a fold

I agree with this dump it preflop.

The fact that you are considering folding an almost perfect flop without a jack indicates folding to the 3bet preflop is easily the best option.

Folding>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shoving>>Calling  IMO


Title: Re: JJ in MTT
Post by: LeKnave on March 05, 2008, 12:39:29 AM
Just had this hand in a $5 donkament on Party.

lol party.

shove.



Title: Re: JJ in MTT
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on March 05, 2008, 12:56:47 AM
Just had this hand in a $5 donkament on Party.

lol party.

shove.



YUP!


Title: Re: JJ in MTT
Post by: LuckyLloyd on March 05, 2008, 01:18:02 AM
In this type of hand it seems to be best to play for all the marbles preflop or fold. In a $5 donkament I play for all the marbles.


Title: Re: JJ in MTT
Post by: rossfourfive on March 05, 2008, 06:32:09 PM

This is pretty spot on, but i only realised that after the hand...

I folded on the flop convinced i was behind, one of them had 66 and the other 55.

Gutted.


Title: Re: JJ in MTT
Post by: Laxie on March 05, 2008, 06:50:29 PM
The fact that gosha only flat called the all in would be screaming for a call at the very least from me in hopes that it'll be checked down from there on out.  If he had gone all in over the top, then I'm taking a chance knowing I still have a short stack to work with after. 

Blinds are still small enough to build it back up.  That said, gosha could have held a higher pocket pair than you and flat called in hopes that you'd re-raise all in anyway, so depends on what you know about him and how happy you are to play a short stack if you're wrong.

Hard luck when you saw what they had, but if you never see a hand you would have won had you played...you're playing too many hands.


Title: Re: JJ in MTT
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 05, 2008, 07:21:59 PM
Pump 'em or dump pre-flop... You shouldnt need to any post-flop decisions...