IMPORTANT - Changes at the blonde Cardroom.

[TightEnd]

Just a quick question. Does anyone know when the withdrawal options were changed?  The way I've always done it seems to have disappeared

PM Kev please and he will investigate. We are not aware that any options have been removed

[amcgrath1uk]

Just a quick question. Does anyone know when the withdrawal options were changed?  The way I've always done it seems to have disappeared

PM Kev please and he will investigate. We are not aware that any options have been removed

Cheers Tighty Will do

[ViiperUK]

just shark and fish? no category for break-even rakeback pros?

Hush you - it's you buggers that have the temerity to win that caused this problem. Can't you try a bit harder to lose? You'd be very welcome if you did.

i'll be a losing player if this Cytech Comapny will pay for my losing? lol

[Mango99]

Ah, the iPoker Network Policy.  The most recent incarnation is indeed a sight to behold.  Maths had always been a strong point of mine but I gave up halfway through reading it and will have to return to it later in the week.

As clarkatroid was saying, unfortunately Playtech have been somewhat forced into taking some drastic action to try and combat the rakeback cannibalisation in the network.  The ideal would naturally be that everyone played fair and stuck to a cap on "loyalty bonuses" etc. but this was never really going to happen.  Therefore they have come up with the "fine the shark pools and reward the fish tanks" idea.

Personally i'm not a fan, and after getting my head round the document will put my own thoughts across.  I actually quite like an idea that Jonas Odman from Bodog put forward recently as their new model to avoid rakeback wars on their newly launching network.  It is similar to what Playtech is doing, but just not as aggressive.  Basically the rake generated by players is redistributed according to their win/loss ratios.  Therefore a net losing player will earn the skin much more than a net winner, with the biggest winners actually earning very little for their skin "owner".

This avoids the unfortunate scenario that Blonde find themselves in, as there would be no fines and possibility for losing - winning players just wouldn't earn them very big profits.  Interestingly this also massively affects loyalty schemes, because effectively you wouldn't be able to offer much at all for the custom of a winning player.  In some ways it is like the Betfair changes that charge the most profitable traders for using their service.  In this Bodog model, the big cash game winners will be sacrificing loyalty rewards or rakeback in return for nice fishy games created by skins spending money on marketing to bring in the casual players that will earn them the most revenue.

I wish Blonde the best of luck in finding a suitable new partner.  Happy to chat anything through if you want another opinion, although Flushie did try that on the weekend but left it too late and i was too battered to say anything sensible  

Very interesting post. The Boss Media network policy, although pretty stict and not properly enforced (mainly with regards to rakeback) is thankfully not quite so draconian and ridiculous sounding as the iPoker one.

[Claw75]

just shark and fish? no category for break-even rakeback pros?

Hush you - it's you buggers that have the temerity to win that caused this problem. Can't you try a bit harder to lose? You'd be very welcome if you did.

Well I've definitely done my bit in that respect on blonde!

[tikay]

just shark and fish? no category for break-even rakeback pros?

Hush you - it's you buggers that have the temerity to win that caused this problem. Can't you try a bit harder to lose? You'd be very welcome if you did.

Well I've definitely done my bit in that respect on blonde!

!!

You & me & a few others, too.

[suzanne]

just shark and fish? no category for break-even rakeback pros?

Hush you - it's you buggers that have the temerity to win that caused this problem. Can't you try a bit harder to lose? You'd be very welcome if you did.

Well I've definitely done my bit in that respect on blonde!

+1

[K9sixtwo]

A plus to all this is that Blonde Poker players are all Sharks.... Therfore it follows that the discussion on Blonde Pokers Forum makes it the required reading for all aspiring poker players and those wishing to improve...

Seriously though this is complete tosh...as was said earlier its pure greed from the network that has caused this..

[byronkincaid]

the reason that people play on ipoker's shitty software to start with was because it was a fishy network, now it's because of the RB. If they cut everyones' RB then everyone will go play on full tilt instead. I have said this before but I noticed it again today, deposited on FT to clear a bonus and the SW is a million times better than ipoker and at the stakes I play there seem to be worse players.

and also if they don't want grinders why do they let you play 16 tables at a time? going back years to when playtech were just an online casino company they were always known to be shady, party were as well, even more so tbh but they both started making so much money that i guess there was no need to steal from their customers anymore. 

[Sack it off]

These kind of ridiculous rules are going to have such a big impact on organisations such as Bad Beat, Black Belt etc. What will they do as they only ever have winning players??

[redarmi]

I think what has probably happened is that all of the small skins have become a victim of their size. 

A while ago a few of the bigger gamning companies realised that, after adding poker rooms, their casino and sportsbetting profits were going down and the reason for this was that poker had become so popular that many of their biggest and most valuable players were playing a lot of poker and losing money.  Because they were losing to these horrible good poker players they then had less money left to be able to lose in their online casinos and on the horses, football etc and all they were getting in recompense was a tiny amount of rake and when they are members of networks that money isn't even going to someone that is one of their customers and often it is simply going into the back pocket of a poker pro.  This was the reason some big sportbetting sites left networks and, I would guess, has led them to put pressure on the networks to cut down on the winning players especially those coming from smaller cardrooms like blonde.  Of course these big gaming firms don't have the intelligence to actively go out and get big rakers and inbcrease their revenue that way.  It is very shortsighted but I have been in board meetings of big gaming firms where they have discussed this problem and how to deal with it.  Basically if a pro, or good player, wins they will never get a shot at that money and they don't like it so they try and feeze them out.

[Sack it off]

I heard the most realistic option is PKR....

[TheChipPrince]

Just a quick question. Does anyone know when the withdrawal options were changed?  The way I've always done it seems to have disappeared

PM Kev please and he will investigate. We are not aware that any options have been removed

Cheers Tighty Will do

Which method?

[Overated]

obv titan are losing player to better offers and thats why they want the other rooms shut down

titan wont be getting charged because ipoker own most of that site!  ipoker is a joke

[Murph1984]

obv titan are losing player to better offers and thats why they want the other rooms shut down

titan wont be getting charged because ipoker own most of that site!  ipoker is a joke

Least you don't have to worry about that seeing as they closed all your accounts because of that scam you pulled.