George Best 1946-2005

[tikay]

Hi Gus, welcome to blonde. Yes, sad news about Richard Burns. Spent many a happy houir spent watching him deep in a Welsh forest on a frosty November morning in what was then called the RAC Rally. I also watched, maily live, the whole of Besty's career - WHAT a footballer he was. But as with so many gifted sportsman - Alex Higgins & Gazza spring immediately to mind - a flawed genius.

[Nem]

I didn't know the man and so I don't pass judgement on him.  At the end of the day "for his sins" he is lying dead today.  Surely punishment enough?  Or do the dead still need an after-life rub down?

I think that this is the best post written on this thread. I also didnt know Best personally, all I want to remember him for is the footballer he was, he was given a second chance, he blew it and he has paid the ultimate price.

[Big Gus]

Thanks for the welcome, Tikay.

Richard, I'm sure, will be missed greatly. Off to cover Man City v Liverpool (work purposes, not pleasure) and am fearful of what will happen during the minute's silence. Especially considering the teams involved.

I don't pass judgement on Best's life, like many others I didn't know him. But it would nice to be able accept the sadness at how his life ended, whether or not people remain irked at the way he abused his second chance.

[sheight]

Thanks for the welcome, Tikay.

Richard, I'm sure, will be missed greatly. Off to cover Man City v Liverpool (work purposes, not pleasure) and am fearful of what will happen during the minute's silence. Especially considering the teams involved.

I don't pass judgement on Best's life, like many others I didn't know him. But it would nice to be able accept the sadness at how his life ended, whether or not people remain irked at the way he abused his second chance.

Celtic decided at the the start of this season that, because of verbal abuse by a few mindless morons during the observation of a minute silence, they would have a minute of applause instead.

[tikay]

Gus - for whom do you write?

[thetank]

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Celtic decided at the the start of this season that, because of verbal abuse by a few mindless morons during the observation of a minute silence, they would have a minute of applause instead.

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This is the way forward for displays of respect in stadia. A minutes applause is not quite as moving as a minutes silence, however, nothing is sadder than a spoiled silence.

[Scottish Dave]

ill be honest with you, i have absolutely no sympathy for the man at all.

he was given a perfect working liver, and a second chance at life yet he abused this second chance and took a good working liver away from someone else who would have used it in the proper way, to embrace the lucky chance they were given.

Dave

[MrMoves]

ill be honest with you, i have absolutely no sympathy for the man at all.

he was given a perfect working liver, and a second chance at life yet he abused this second chance and took a good working liver away from someone else who would have used it in the proper way, to embrace the lucky chance they were given.

Dave

The organ transplant list is very strictly controlled.  George Best was lucky to be given a second chance but he did not take this chance away from anybody else.  Livers have to be a match for the person they're donated too.

Like others, I've seen plenty of George Best posts around.  I'm amazed.  Amazed that so many people are full of disgust for the man.  I can only assume these same people are 100% clean living folk, who have never abused themselves or others. 

A man who was clearly one of the best footballers in Britain, if not the world, brought great pleasure into peoples lives.  He is slated for abusing his body even now he is dead!  When Maradona dies do you think the people of Argentina will say "Yes, he was good at football, but he was a cocaine snorting cheat" ?  He will be celebrated for his genius as Best should be.

[Big Gus]

Tikay, n.o.t.w.

But whisper it. Everyone has to pay the mortgage.

Regards, Gus/Jim.

[thetank]

Tikay, n.o.t.w.

Boo, hiss. Hiss and boo.

The brief will be happy, someone on the forum with a seedier occupation than him at last.

[Nem]

ill be honest with you, i have absolutely no sympathy for the man at all.

he was given a perfect working liver, and a second chance at life yet he abused this second chance and took a good working liver away from someone else who would have used it in the proper way, to embrace the lucky chance they were given.

Dave

The organ transplant list is very strictly controlled.  George Best was lucky to be given a second chance but he did not take this chance away from anybody else.  Livers have to be a match for the person they're donated too.

Like others, I've seen plenty of George Best posts around.  I'm amazed.  Amazed that so many people are full of disgust for the man.  I can only assume these same people are 100% clean living folk, who have never abused themselves or others. 

A man who was clearly one of the best footballers in Britain, if not the world, brought great pleasure into peoples lives.  He is slated for abusing his body even now he is dead!  When Maradona dies do you think the people of Argentina will say "Yes, he was good at football, but he was a cocaine snorting cheat" ?  He will be celebrated for his genius as Best should be.

 

[Robert HM]

Tikay, n.o.t.w.

Boo, hiss. Hiss and boo.

The brief will be happy, someone on the forum with a seedier occupation than him at last.

lol, I got warned off by that organ once, I was digging into something years ago and the Crime correspondent got sort of "twitchy"

[Scottish Dave]

ill be honest with you, i have absolutely no sympathy for the man at all.

he was given a perfect working liver, and a second chance at life yet he abused this second chance and took a good working liver away from someone else who would have used it in the proper way, to embrace the lucky chance they were given.

Dave

The organ transplant list is very strictly controlled.  George Best was lucky to be given a second chance but he did not take this chance away from anybody else.  Livers have to be a match for the person they're donated too.

so are you saying, if he didnt get the organ, it would have been binned??

dont think so, he took it from someone, how would have used it to its full potential, not used it to get another few years bevvy.

i stand by what i say.

Dave

[MrMoves]

ill be honest with you, i have absolutely no sympathy for the man at all.

he was given a perfect working liver, and a second chance at life yet he abused this second chance and took a good working liver away from someone else who would have used it in the proper way, to embrace the lucky chance they were given.

Dave

The organ transplant list is very strictly controlled.  George Best was lucky to be given a second chance but he did not take this chance away from anybody else.  Livers have to be a match for the person they're donated too.

so are you saying, if he didnt get the organ, it would have been binned??

dont think so, he took it from someone, how would have used it to its full potential, not used it to get another few years bevvy.

i stand by what i say.

Dave

If there is no suitable match for an organ there is little point trying the transplant.  There are a team a specialist doctors who decide who needs an organ most.  Best got lucky, the right organ came up when he needed it the most.  The docs won't think "Better not give him a new liver, he might abuse it, lets leave him to die."  They'll decide who is in most critical need.

The only person he took it from was the guy or girl who died with an organ donor card.  There are no queue jumpers on the transplant list.  Sure, a different person may have used the new organ more thoughtfully.

As I said previously, he has paid the ultimate price for his abuse.

[Scottish Dave]

ill be honest with you, i have absolutely no sympathy for the man at all.

he was given a perfect working liver, and a second chance at life yet he abused this second chance and took a good working liver away from someone else who would have used it in the proper way, to embrace the lucky chance they were given.

Dave

The organ transplant list is very strictly controlled.  George Best was lucky to be given a second chance but he did not take this chance away from anybody else.  Livers have to be a match for the person they're donated too.

so are you saying, if he didnt get the organ, it would have been binned??

dont think so, he took it from someone, how would have used it to its full potential, not used it to get another few years bevvy.

i stand by what i say.

Dave

The only person he took it from was the guy or girl who died with an organ donor card.  There are no queue jumpers on the transplant list.  Sure, a different person may have used the new organ more thoughtfully.

precisely.