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tikay
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Society is changing so much, accelerated by social-media, & every Prime Minister in recent memory seems to be widely disrespected by the public at large, or perhaps more correctly, those that use social media.
They can't ALL be awful though, can they? After all, generally speaking, we voted most of them in.
Hard to find a good word said in the media & social-media about any of these though.
In your opinion, which of these DID do a decent job, & why?
Macmillan
Alec Douglas-Home
Harold Wilson (twice)
Edward Heath
James Callaghan
Margaret Thatcher
John Major
Tony Blair
Gordon Brown
David Cameron
Theresa May
Boris Johnson. (To be fair, he's only had a few weeks, so hard to judge fairly).
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MAGGIE by a country mile
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Quote from: Ironside on September 02, 2019, 01:22:36 PM
MAGGIE by a country mile
+1 turned the country from a high tax socialist state full of wasters to a prosperous capitalist one that encouraged people to get off their arses.
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Blair. Did so much that has been forgotten due to the Iraq war. Think John Major should be remembered better.
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Tony Blair and NL was a good time to have a young family on low income. I had two kids born 2000/2005 and one and a half retail incomes coming in at the time. Plenty of tax relief, state funded child care, additional income boosting benefits, etc. Enabled us to get on the housing ladder and work hard to improve our situation.
Would hate to be in that situation a decade earlier or a decade later.
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Quote from: Doobs on September 02, 2019, 01:57:10 PM
Blair. Did so much that has been forgotten due to the Iraq war. Think John Major should be remembered better.
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Quote from: AdamM on September 02, 2019, 01:59:46 PM
Tony Blair and NL was a good time to have a young family on low income. I had two kids born 2000/2005 and one and a half retail incomes coming in at the time. Plenty of tax relief, state funded child care, additional income boosting benefits, etc. Enabled us to get on the housing ladder and work hard to improve our situation.
Would hate to be in that situation a decade earlier or a decade later.
Trouble is everyone is still paying for Blair and Brown's magic spending spree now. Anyone in your position 2000-5 now its totally skint relative to you doing the same jobs in 2019
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Quote from: arbboy on September 02, 2019, 03:48:54 PM
Quote from: AdamM on September 02, 2019, 01:59:46 PM
Tony Blair and NL was a good time to have a young family on low income. I had two kids born 2000/2005 and one and a half retail incomes coming in at the time. Plenty of tax relief, state funded child care, additional income boosting benefits, etc. Enabled us to get on the housing ladder and work hard to improve our situation.
Would hate to be in that situation a decade earlier or a decade later.
Trouble is everyone is still paying for Blair and Brown's magic spending spree now. Anyone in your position 2000-5 now its totally skint relative to you doing the same jobs in 2019
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Also a decade earlier in 1995 you would have been buying a house at all time record low average house prices/average wages ratio of close to or under 3. Whereas now i would imagine the typical ratio of people in your position would probably be 7 or 8 now. The mid 90s was the nut best time in my lifetime to start a family/buy a house. I doubt it will ever be that good ever again in my life time. I started work in 1996 on £14k a year graduate scheme and could easily have bought a 3 bed new build house for £40k in my area and got a mortgage in my lunch hour for it at 21 with a month's salary as a deposit. It was that easy back then.
New graduate doing the same job now in the same area is probably starting on £25k maybe £30k tops but the same house is over £200k and he needs a years salary after tax to even be considered for a mortgage.
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I get that the Blair years were good for many people. But the long term bill is still being paid and, without Blair we might not have had Cameron (the Tory version of Mr Sincerity). Both TB and DC were/are self-serving gits, and the country would be the better for having never elected either of them. IMO.
Thatcher’s legacy is tricky to judge because her obstinacy caused some significant social dislocation. But she had battles that had to be fought, and had to be won. Not least the battle with Arthur Scargill and the NUM. Which was never really about coal, and always about who was in charge. We might not still have a mining industry in the 21st century if Scargill had been less politically motivated, but without his influence it would almost certainly have lasted longer than it did.
Overall, Thatcher’s legacy will be seen in a more positive light when viewed from the future than any of the others.
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Maggie at the top table with USA & Soviets was a big deal for me. Particularly at such a sensitive period in international politics.
Not a puppet like Blair but a tour de force on the international stage, highest level respect from global powers.
Could do with some of that now we’re small insignificant third country and general laughing stock.
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Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, Oi, Oi, Oi.
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Best part about Thatcher was her spitting image puppet.
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Quote from: atdc21 on September 03, 2019, 08:48:48 AM
Best part about Thatcher was her spitting image puppet.
Best thing about Major's puppet wasn't the puppet but the peas!
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Quote from: atdc21 on September 03, 2019, 08:48:48 AM
Best part about Thatcher was her spitting image puppet.
Such a great programme. It’s portrayal of Maggie as a strong, powerful woman in stark contrast to her cabinet and the opposition of the time probably did her a big favour. The representation of the two Davids, Steel and Owen can’t have done them much good.
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