The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

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David Cowling's conclusion

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The EU plans to ambush Theresa May by reopening freedom of movement if she wants frictionless market access. Could this finally be the straw that breaks the Brexit negotiations. See Sunday Times

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Nigel Farage says UK could be worse off after Brexit if Theresa May fails to toughen up

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-nigel-farage-theresa-may-uk-worse-off-tough-brussels-a8390796.html

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David Davis has warned the Brexit inner Cabinet that if Britain is under the backstop at the time of the next election then the Tories will suffer a 1997-style defeat. But he lost this argument with the Prime Minister.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/06/dd-warns-tories-are-at-risk-of-1997-style-defeat-if-britain-is-under-the-backstop-in-2022/

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The Brexit illusion in one sentence.

"Barnier is determined to keep on salami-slicing the UK position until  this country is left with almost none of the benefits of Brexit."


If Brexit were a viable project, it would not matter what Barnier did.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6486954/james-forsyth-battle-backstop-cant-end-well-uk/

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surprise surprise

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If you can't face reading the institute For gov's 60 pages on Whitehall Brexit prep,

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/publications/preparing-brexit-how-ready-whitehall

here's a great summary


1) UK gov negotiating with itself
2) "extraordinary secrecy" means departments can't coordinate effectively
3) transition too short

2 excellent but alarming charts on the monstrous challenge facing Whitehall in getting the UK ready for the end of Brexit transition
 1) To complete an FTA in 21 months would be unprecedented
 2) 21 months not enough to design, create and implement new regulators

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Look at all of the organisations involved in the border. All need to be ready. All need to be planning on the same basis (but there is no policy yet)

[Doobs]

surprise surprise

So Aaron Banks and Farage were the traitors after all?

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surprise surprise

So Aaron Banks and Farage were the traitors after all?

never particularly in doubt that their many business interests in Russia, and in Rees-Mogg's case the tangible financial benefits post 2019 from Brexit, that they were operating with self interest first to mind was it?

and that it is in Putin's interest to destabilise the EU?

not to say that Remain deserved to win, or ran a good campaign or even that the EU is more good than bad...but a lot of people have been duped

[Doobs]

surprise surprise

So Aaron Banks and Farage were the traitors after all?

never particularly in doubt that their many business interests in Russia, and in Rees-Mogg's case the tangible financial benefits post 2019 from Brexit, that they were operating with self interest first to mind was it?

and that it is in Putin's interest to destabilise the EU?

not to say that Remain deserved to win, or ran a good campaign or even that the EU is more good than bad...but a lot of people have been duped

I can't say there have been many times over the years where I haven't thought Farage was a traitor and he is far more a member of the establishment than I have ever been.  ditto for Rees Mogg and Boris.

But this sneers at the Rees Mogg financial benefit story better than I could. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/7095b307-46b5-355f-a881-78cf9d57ce83

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Rather a large portion of 'Remain' City types will be invested in emerging markets so I don't really get this as a specifically Brexit benefit for those exposed/invested in these markets.

We opened our markets pretty readily to Russian money many years ago so it's not like anything new is happening here.

That Russia would enjoy the general instability I guess goes without saying though.

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The Brexit state of play as of Sunday evening had not changed - as this short exchange between Green, Riley and Bond shows

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Brexit Flight 2019 to, er ...

Theresa May is circling the Brussels sky and low on fuel. Time to buckle up

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/11/theresa-may-brussels-brexit?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Tory “Remainer” rebels throw PM a life line by cooking up a fudged EU customs amendment. “We’ve given her a breathing space, a bit of time”, said one. They are bossing her. Not a good look

https://www.facebook.com/1498276767163730/posts/2070940296564038/

Those of you hoping for the watershed moment over customs will have to wait a few more weeks. Looks like rebels and the ERG lot are going to be pacified by a fudge amendment. The real fight will come with the trade bill later down the line.