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« on: January 29, 2008, 04:12:36 PM »

$100+$10 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) -
9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Peet3D (1535 in chips)
Seat 2: mwlucian (6670 in chips)
Seat 3: Steke (2010 in chips)
Seat 4: jmut23 (775 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (2510 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 75
Peet3D: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [  ]
mwlucian: raises 300 to 450
Steke: raises 1560 to 2010 and is all-in
jmut23: folds
Hero?

chip leader is solid, only shown the goods, been paid off by donks

Pusher is unknown


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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 04:15:19 PM »

I get it in here.

Im sure even if are 3 bettor is solid he does this with aq+ 99+ and therefore we are good against his range.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 04:21:05 PM »

Fold for me. I'm expecting to be racing here more often than not and think one of my outs will be gone..not ideal to race in that situation for me.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 04:21:44 PM »

I call here. Think he does this with AJ+ and 88+
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 04:26:40 PM »

havent read the topic yet but if you have AK get them chips in the middle ALL IN
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2008, 04:38:51 PM »

Fold, if CL is decent, then chances are he has a hand which could involve 1 or 2 of your outs.   Other guy probably knows that the CL is ok too, so will push with something decent - AK, pairs 99+, could easily have a made hand and your outs could be limited by getting involved.  Let the two fight it out and wait for a better spot.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2008, 04:46:09 PM »

I'm probably calling, maybe if it was an extended STT with plenty of play left I could justify a fold...
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 04:53:10 PM »

I reshove and isolate the pusher, get rid of the CL who will fold a lot of hands now with all the action thats gone on so far, I dont think we're in bad shape at all against the shover as he rarely has AA/KK here.  If the CL has raised AA/KK here then its just unlucky.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 05:08:06 PM »


Fold.  Find a better spot with less of a race factor
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 07:23:04 PM »

fold, you don't want to be racing this early if you can help it.
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2008, 04:26:08 AM »

I'm surprised so many people suggest folding because for me this is a super easy all in. An unknown's 3-betting range is going to include at least AQ, probably AJ and A10, and pairs at least down to 9's, and occasionally a weaker hand like 910s. Against any range that isn't insanely tight this is a +chipEV push, and the only argument for folding would be if +chipEV didn't amount to +$$EV but that isn't the case here.
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2008, 12:01:56 PM »

Allinallinallinallinallinallinallinallin

Go all in.

Shove.

Shoveski?

Push.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2008, 12:07:29 PM »

if your aiming to achieve a 40% itm ratio at a high level, you really dont want to be flipping as your itm chances will drop from 100% to 50% in one hand. yeah you might be ahead but more than likely not.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2008, 12:33:31 PM »

if your aiming to achieve a 40% itm ratio at a high level, you really dont want to be flipping as your itm chances will drop from 100% to 50% in one hand. yeah you might be ahead but more than likely not.

Erm I couldn't give two hoots what my ITM is. ROI is the key in sngs. Also avoiding flipping in sngs in the latter stages is near impossible and we ahead of his range if it includes aq making us a favourite.

So are you saying it doesn't include the 3 bettor range doesn't include aq, or something else?

BTW i think there is valid arguement for folding just no one has presented it yet.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2008, 12:38:45 PM »

yes roi is the most important, but 60% of the prizepool is made up of making the money therefore itm should not be ignored.
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