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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2013, 09:39:47 PM »

betsafe is gigantic yeh, but slowly moving to microgaming, they are already doing the dual network option. every room should do dual netowrk really.
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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2013, 10:01:14 PM »

yeh i dont understand betfair completely uprooting from ongame, just keeping up both options would be best.

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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2013, 10:11:25 PM »

yeh i dont understand betfair completely uprooting from ongame, just keeping up both options would be best.



Not from the business perspective. It means they have to pay TWO lots of Network Charges for roughly the same amount of traffic, so their gross margin gets severely diluted. That makes no business sense whatsoever, imo.

We should not forget why they run a poker room - to earn margin, & feed liquidity to the other platforms on their own Site via cross-sell.  
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2013, 02:35:01 AM »

Wont be long until there is just 2 networks i think.

Bring back Tribeca  Cry
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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2013, 05:28:03 PM »

yeh i dont understand betfair completely uprooting from ongame, just keeping up both options would be best.



Not from the business perspective. It means they have to pay TWO lots of Network Charges for roughly the same amount of traffic, so their gross margin gets severely diluted. That makes no business sense whatsoever, imo.

We should not forget why they run a poker room - to earn margin, & feed liquidity to the other platforms on their own Site via cross-sell.  

Not sure I understand that - network charges are a % of rake usually, no?
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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2013, 05:32:15 PM »

yeh i dont understand betfair completely uprooting from ongame, just keeping up both options would be best.



Not from the business perspective. It means they have to pay TWO lots of Network Charges for roughly the same amount of traffic, so their gross margin gets severely diluted. That makes no business sense whatsoever, imo.

We should not forget why they run a poker room - to earn margin, & feed liquidity to the other platforms on their own Site via cross-sell. 

Not sure I understand that - network charges are a % of rake usually, no?

They're usually a sliding scale, so you pay proportionally more if the total rake is lower, as it would be if you were splitting your traffic between two sites. There are usually also minimum payments, regardless of rake.
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2013, 05:37:37 PM »

yeh i dont understand betfair completely uprooting from ongame, just keeping up both options would be best.



Not from the business perspective. It means they have to pay TWO lots of Network Charges for roughly the same amount of traffic, so their gross margin gets severely diluted. That makes no business sense whatsoever, imo.

We should not forget why they run a poker room - to earn margin, & feed liquidity to the other platforms on their own Site via cross-sell.  

Not sure I understand that - network charges are a % of rake usually, no?

Only part of them are Margin-based, some of them are Fixed Fees.

If you split liquidity between two networks, the fixed costs of the Room WILL rise as a % of the Margin* generated.

* "Margin" = total Rake & Reg Fees. Which you know, obv, but not everyone may describe it in those terms. 
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2013, 05:39:49 PM »

Wont be long until there is just 2 networks i think.

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You realise Tribeca is iPoker?
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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2013, 05:40:48 PM »

yeh i dont understand betfair completely uprooting from ongame, just keeping up both options would be best.



We should not forget why they run a poker room - to earn margin, & feed liquidity to the other platforms on their own Site via cross-sell.  

I think betfair probably only runs a poker room to stop their players playing poker elsewhere. I doubt they are focused much on cross-selling from poker.
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2013, 07:19:56 AM »



http://pokerfuse.com/news/poker-room-news/betfair-goes-live-ipoker-22-01/
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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2013, 09:27:30 AM »

Wont be long until there is just 2 networks i think.

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You realise Tribeca is iPoker?

I think Suzanne means the old Tribeca software and community. I found it clunky tbh (tribeca that is)
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« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2013, 12:01:23 PM »

Wont be long until there is just 2 networks i think.

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You realise Tribeca is iPoker?

Errrm, no. Tribeca was bought by Playtech which own ipoker. It is not the same thing.
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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2013, 12:18:53 PM »

Wont be long until there is just 2 networks i think.

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You realise Tribeca is iPoker?

Errrm, no. Tribeca was bought by Playtech which own ipoker. It is not the same thing.

<3 the Tribeca software.  Happy memories...
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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2013, 12:53:30 PM »

Wont be long until there is just 2 networks i think.

Bring back Tribeca  Cry

You realise Tribeca is iPoker?

Errrm, no. Tribeca was bought by Playtech which own ipoker. It is not the same thing.

<3 the Tribeca software.  Happy memories...
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« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2013, 01:13:11 PM »

Wont be long until there is just 2 networks i think.

Bring back Tribeca  Cry

You realise Tribeca is iPoker?

I think Suzanne means the old Tribeca software and community. I found it clunky tbh (tribeca that is)

Ah OK, misunderstood the point. Thanks. And yep anyone craving 2007 software probably has rose tinted specs on.
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