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Title: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: PokerBroker on July 27, 2018, 08:51:20 PM
At Alea casino apparently.

Ongoing over a 3 year period. 

Waiting for Ludo’s blog for all the juice.

https://gr4vybo4t.co.uk


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: PokerBroker on July 27, 2018, 10:43:28 PM
Allegedly a player was using this device https://vimeo.com/121971288 and was colluding with a dealer and there are allegations that other player were involved.

Casino confronted player last night let him go before cops arrived.


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: Rexas on July 28, 2018, 01:23:41 PM
Seen this story, is anything actually confirmed yet?


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: celtic on July 29, 2018, 12:28:23 AM
Seen this story, is anything actually confirmed yet?

Boba fett confirmed doing his bollocks in this game. So he is in the clear.


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: RED-DOG on July 29, 2018, 09:36:53 AM
I lolled.


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: Pokerpops on August 02, 2018, 09:17:53 AM
Front page news in the Scottish Sun today

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/3007947/glasgow-casino-alea-poker-con-fraud-springfield-quay-police/


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: celtic on August 02, 2018, 09:23:04 AM
Front page news in the Scottish Sun today

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/3007947/glasgow-casino-alea-poker-con-fraud-springfield-quay-police/

'there is strict security and normally this sort of thing would be detected without too much difficulty'

comedy

Looks to me that the Alea were pretty keen to get this story out before anyone else did.


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: Longines on August 02, 2018, 12:44:32 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/furious-poker-players-oust-billy-13018353


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: doubleup on August 03, 2018, 05:08:15 PM

Name and picture - claims that he plays in London as well

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?17725-Egyptian-Billy-(Billy-Chawick)-caught-using-device-to-see-holecards-at-poker-game


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: arbboy on August 03, 2018, 05:39:14 PM
how does the bent dealer mark every card to tell the machine which card is which?  Given the pit boss should change the cards every hour or so?  Doesn't really make sense.  What do the cards get marked with individually and where?


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: doubleup on August 03, 2018, 07:10:53 PM
I would be very suprised if they supervise the custody of the cards to a high standard - this is a casino that doesn't provide dealers for poker tournaments.  The insider takes them out of the casino, marks them and reintroduces them.  He could have introduced dozens of packs.


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: Karabiner on August 03, 2018, 07:17:33 PM
how does the bent dealer mark every card to tell the machine which card is which?  Given the pit boss should change the cards every hour or so?  Doesn't really make sense.  What do the cards get marked with individually and where?

The dealer has to introduce the "cold deck" via the old "switcheroo" as per The Sting railway carriage game

The new crooked deck has a bar code printed on the side of every card which is read by the villains "'phone" placed in front of him and transmitted to said villain's headphones.


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: Karabiner on August 03, 2018, 07:31:29 PM
The DTD live stream games use a similar deck to identify the cards as opposed to rail-cams etc. IIRC.


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: bergeroo on August 03, 2018, 09:23:47 PM
I find it surprising that a newspaper has named him. Any actual real proof or just gossip? A threat of libel/defamation here surely. He could sue!


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: bergeroo on August 03, 2018, 09:24:38 PM
Woyld be happy with phones being banned at table. Peooke might talk to each other then!


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: UgotNuts on August 04, 2018, 07:57:44 AM
Talking to people is a dangerous game when money is involved...


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: tikay on August 04, 2018, 08:50:54 AM

Wonder how thy know the theft amounts to £300,000?

Guess it sounds better than "might have been quite a lot".


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: SuperJez on October 04, 2019, 12:28:41 PM
Did anything ever come of this?

Similar case being "investigated" in the US at the moment.   It appears over there sometimes the cheater had access to hole card info and sometimes he knew the deck like this guy did.


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: celtic on October 04, 2019, 10:36:53 PM
Investigation is still ongoing.

Or something like that.


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: shipitgood on October 06, 2019, 10:42:05 AM
Player disappeared, never to be seen again is my understanding.

There was talk by players of pushing the casino for compo, but it was all very hush hush.

I’m not sure if anything was ever paid to any player, presumably there must have been something as there was a core of players who played there religiously.

All in all, for making the front page of the Daily Record and the alleged amount of money involved here this really didn’t get much traction by the poker community.

By comparison, current events surrounding the Postle case have electrified poker forums through out the world.





Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: SuperJez on October 06, 2019, 07:24:29 PM
Investigation is still ongoing.

Or something like that.

Player disappeared, never to be seen again is my understanding.

All in all, for making the front page of the Daily Record and the alleged amount of money involved here this really didn’t get much traction by the poker community.

By comparison, current events surrounding the Postle case have electrified poker forums through out the world.

Thanks for the replies.  It appears this guy in Glasgow got away with more than Postle as well.  I think the reason the Postle case has exploded so much is all his sessions are on video online for everyone to watch.  If the same applied to the Alea cheat it would have got mega traction as well.


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: Glasgowscot on April 22, 2024, 09:47:01 AM
Old thread I know but for anyone who is interested I actually know a lot about this as I worked there at the time!
Barry McKenna was the dealer involved, he was caught on the casino security camera taking the marked cards out of his socks.  The casino fired him & walked him out but unfortunately this was before they called the police. On investigation he had been doing this for months and  he admitted to a friend he was getting 10% of all the “winnings” from Billy the Egyptian. He claims to have racked up over &10,000 which he even bought a car with however the majority of his money went on cocaine as he had a serious addiction which got him into thousands of debt (this is actually the reason WHY he got involved in the scam- to help pay drug debt). Within days he flew out to Lanzarote leaving behind 6 kids who he has never spoken with or seen since. There is a warrant out for his arrest so he is too big a shite bag to fly into the uk. I had him on Facebook, he works in the Devon Bar in Puerto Del Carmen living a great life which is a major kick in the teeth to those he stole from. And a kick in the teeth to his children too.


Title: Re: £300k poker theft Glasgow . . . .
Post by: Mohican on April 25, 2024, 07:57:56 PM
Old thread I know but for anyone who is interested I actually know a lot about this as I worked there at the time!
Barry McKenna was the dealer involved, he was caught on the casino security camera taking the marked cards out of his socks.  The casino fired him & walked him out but unfortunately this was before they called the police. On investigation he had been doing this for months and  he admitted to a friend he was getting 10% of all the “winnings” from Billy the Egyptian. He claims to have racked up over &10,000 which he even bought a car with however the majority of his money went on cocaine as he had a serious addiction which got him into thousands of debt (this is actually the reason WHY he got involved in the scam- to help pay drug debt). Within days he flew out to Lanzarote leaving behind 6 kids who he has never spoken with or seen since. There is a warrant out for his arrest so he is too big a shite bag to fly into the uk. I had him on Facebook, he works in the Devon Bar in Puerto Del Carmen living a great life which is a major kick in the teeth to those he stole from. And a kick in the teeth to his children too.
Is this him?(https://i.imgur.com/GuYp3Os.jpeg)