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NoflopsHomer
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Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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October 05, 2011, 12:02:57 AM »
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/william-hill-house-bot-mtt-confirmed-1108249/
Heard a lot of stories about bots crushing the NL400 games and above, this just makes iPoker's joke security look even worse.
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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October 05, 2011, 01:00:31 AM »
i heard from a v well know/respected/credible source who plays 2/4-10/20 on ipoker that there are a lot of bots playing a very specific style. they have beaten even 5/10 using this weird strat but slowly more regs were noticing the tendencies. (the bots were not shortstackers)
im almost certain there are shortstacking bots at low-mid stakes plo on there also and a few others have also mentioned the same suspicion.
Can't believe they have admitted to having a bot of their own though. I say good- hopefully it will cause Ipoker to clean up their act after the inevitable 2+2 witchhunt.
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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Quote from: TheFallen on October 05, 2011, 01:00:31 AM
i heard from a v well know/respected/credible source who plays 2/4-10/20 on ipoker that there are a lot of bots playing a very specific style. they have beaten even 5/10 using this weird strat but slowly more regs were noticing the tendencies. (the bots were not shortstackers)
im almost certain there are shortstacking bots at low-mid stakes plo on there also and a few others have also mentioned the same suspicion.
Can't believe they have admitted to having a bot of their own though
. I say good- hopefully it will cause Ipoker to clean up their act after the inevitable 2+2 witchhunt.
To be fair, I don't believe they have, as such.
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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October 05, 2011, 03:16:01 AM »
This has been well known for ages?
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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Quote from: TheFallen on October 05, 2011, 01:00:31 AM
i heard from a v well know/respected/credible source who plays 2/4-10/20 on ipoker that there are a lot of bots playing a very specific style. they have beaten even 5/10 using this weird strat but slowly more regs were noticing the tendencies. (the bots were not shortstackers)
im almost certain there are shortstacking bots at low-mid stakes plo on there also and a few others have also mentioned the same suspicion.
Can't believe they have admitted to having a bot of their own though. I say good- hopefully it will cause Ipoker to clean up their act after the inevitable 2+2 witchhunt.
DYER88!!!!
For months I been sayin to everyone that player feels like a bot. Lil Dave will confirm.
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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October 05, 2011, 07:19:54 AM »
its been pretty common knowledge the midstakes NL games are full of them (Stu + Alex Martin best people to ask)
Dyer88 I agree, never seen him tank on a desicion in my life - theres a few others i think at 100-400plo as well
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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October 05, 2011, 11:26:48 AM »
Are these bots easily exploitable because they often have the same line to the same spot or is it really tricky to get the up on them?
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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Quote from: Ant040689 on October 05, 2011, 11:26:48 AM
Are these bots easily exploitable because they often have the same line to the same spot or is it really tricky to get the up on them?
looking at 2+2 thread, they appear to have v good roi's. Look very suspect i.e. superusers, as most bots are break even rake back machines.
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October 05, 2011, 11:40:54 AM »
The bots use to be break even, now they are winning and getting smarter. There are even bot forums where people discuss tactics for making a good poker bot.
Truthfully, this could end up destroying online poker for everyone - and I don't think that I'm being overly dramatic in saying that.
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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Quote from: NoflopsHomer on October 05, 2011, 11:40:54 AM
Truthfully, this could end up destroying online poker for everyone - and I don't think that I'm being overly dramatic in saying that.
Bots quickly killed online backgammon for any serious money.
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Bainn
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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October 05, 2011, 01:05:30 PM »
Quote from: tikay on October 05, 2011, 02:39:33 AM
Quote from: TheFallen on October 05, 2011, 01:00:31 AM
i heard from a v well know/respected/credible source who plays 2/4-10/20 on ipoker that there are a lot of bots playing a very specific style. they have beaten even 5/10 using this weird strat but slowly more regs were noticing the tendencies. (the bots were not shortstackers)
im almost certain there are shortstacking bots at low-mid stakes plo on there also and a few others have also mentioned the same suspicion.
Can't believe they have admitted to having a bot of their own though
. I say good- hopefully it will cause Ipoker to clean up their act after the inevitable 2+2 witchhunt.
To be fair, I don't believe they have, as such.
From their terms and conditions -
10.1.1.4 in games offered via the Website which benefit from more players or greater liquidity we may deploy electronic players (known as robots, and whose usernames will be "bot") who are pre-programmed to play and join in with the game in order to assist the liquidity or the number of players gaming although we will not use bots without making such usage clear to You;
Plus, there is this apparent quote from customer support -
"Player: Is the player "bot771107" a bot?
Laura: Yes (he is); and he is also marked as one (a bot)"
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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October 05, 2011, 01:08:07 PM »
This is a statement that has just come in from ipoker...
Dear Member,
We would like to take this opportunity to publish the network’s policy and stance on automated “bots” being used on iPoker, and to comment on some specific accounts that have been mentioned on Pokerstrategy.com.
Our policy is clear: A poker account is to be used exclusively by the registered account holder and the use of any automated “bots” is prohibited. In all cases where iPoker security department is satisfied that an account is being used in any other way than by the sole registered account holder the account is closed. This is done in every case regardless of how much rake the account has contributed, and forum posts that suggest iPoker ignores “bots” because of the rake they generate are very much wide of the mark.
The network’s security department regularly checks suspicious accounts at all stake levels and is freezing accounts for failing our “bot” testing procedures, as well as taking firm measures towards affiliates of such “bots” rings.
The integrity of the network is our highest priority and it is essential that players know they are in a secure environment. We will always investigate any account that we suspect of using “bots” and if the members of the iPoker network have concerns over particular accounts we request to receive these concerns and inquiries for investigation.
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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October 05, 2011, 01:11:51 PM »
Quote from: Bainn on October 05, 2011, 01:05:30 PM
Quote from: tikay on October 05, 2011, 02:39:33 AM
Quote from: TheFallen on October 05, 2011, 01:00:31 AM
i heard from a v well know/respected/credible source who plays 2/4-10/20 on ipoker that there are a lot of bots playing a very specific style. they have beaten even 5/10 using this weird strat but slowly more regs were noticing the tendencies. (the bots were not shortstackers)
im almost certain there are shortstacking bots at low-mid stakes plo on there also and a few others have also mentioned the same suspicion.
Can't believe they have admitted to having a bot of their own though
. I say good- hopefully it will cause Ipoker to clean up their act after the inevitable 2+2 witchhunt.
To be fair, I don't believe they have, as such.
From their terms and conditions -
10.1.1.4 in games offered via the Website which benefit from more players or greater liquidity we may deploy electronic players (known as robots, and whose usernames will be "bot") who are pre-programmed to play and join in with the game in order to assist the liquidity or the number of players gaming although we will not use bots without making such usage clear to You;
Plus, there is this apparent quote from customer support -
"Player: Is the player "bot771107" a bot?
Laura: Yes (he is); and he is also marked as one (a bot)"
That term is from their casino T&Cs, not their poker ones.
Also, safely ignore anything that a customer service agent says in chat - you're often lucky if they know what product you're talking about, lest subtle intricacies.
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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October 05, 2011, 01:15:43 PM »
Quote from: AndrewT on October 05, 2011, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: Bainn on October 05, 2011, 01:05:30 PM
Quote from: tikay on October 05, 2011, 02:39:33 AM
Quote from: TheFallen on October 05, 2011, 01:00:31 AM
i heard from a v well know/respected/credible source who plays 2/4-10/20 on ipoker that there are a lot of bots playing a very specific style. they have beaten even 5/10 using this weird strat but slowly more regs were noticing the tendencies. (the bots were not shortstackers)
im almost certain there are shortstacking bots at low-mid stakes plo on there also and a few others have also mentioned the same suspicion.
Can't believe they have admitted to having a bot of their own though
. I say good- hopefully it will cause Ipoker to clean up their act after the inevitable 2+2 witchhunt.
To be fair, I don't believe they have, as such.
From their terms and conditions -
10.1.1.4 in games offered via the Website which benefit from more players or greater liquidity we may deploy electronic players (known as robots, and whose usernames will be "bot") who are pre-programmed to play and join in with the game in order to assist the liquidity or the number of players gaming although we will not use bots without making such usage clear to You;
Plus, there is this apparent quote from customer support -
"Player: Is the player "bot771107" a bot?
Laura: Yes (he is); and he is also marked as one (a bot)"
That term is from their casino T&Cs, not their poker ones.
Also, safely ignore anything that a customer service agent says in chat - you're often lucky if they know what product you're talking about, lest subtle intricacies.
Could you provide a link to the poker T & C's as I could only find the page I linked to on WH poker site ?
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Re: Confirmed: Bots on iPoker
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October 05, 2011, 01:16:53 PM »
Wp 2+2 op , level is funny.
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