UK General Election 2015

[DungBeetle]

I think this is their last throw of the dice Tighty.  Might work though as could decimate the UKIP vote?

[TightEnd]

I think this is their last throw of the dice Tighty.  Might work though as could decimate the UKIP vote?

i think the conservative campaign has been poor

i think miliband has surprised

i know the anti-snp stuff won't appeal to many

but ukip has reduced the tory vote by about 5-7% compared to 2005 election time. so thats the difference between getting 37% and 32% say

i was wondering, with an eye on markets/betting etc, whether people saw this tack as a game changer, or not?

will many ukippers be tempted to switch? i have little feel for it, but suspect not

[DungBeetle]

Think a certain Ukip defection is already built into spreads last time I looked.  They generally have Tories 10 to 20 seats ahead.

[arbboy]

just makes ukip under 3.5 seats an even bigger bet.  Surely this is the tory push now?

[The Camel]

I've followed this election campaign less than any other of my adult life.

Apathy on my part I guess.

The one question I'm eager to have answered, which I haven't found a decent article about is why the SNP are going to do so well, so soon after losing the referendum?

Surely logic suggests they would do really badly as there is no prospect of another referendum for another 40 years or so.

[The Camel]

Surely if the SNP are part of a coalition, they wouldn't have the front to demand another referendum would they?

[Woodsey]

I've followed this election campaign less than any other of my adult life.

Apathy on my part I guess.

The one question I'm eager to have answered, which I haven't found a decent article about is why the SNP are going to do so well, so soon after losing the referendum?

Surely logic suggests they would do really badly as there is no prospect of another referendum for another 40 years or so.

Because the Scots want a better deal for Scotland, but unless you ask Kmac don't want independence currently.

[arbboy]

Surely if the SNP are part of a coalition, they wouldn't have the front to demand another referendum would they?

What else are they so power hungry for?  Only thing they are in the game for.  They lost the yes/no 48/52 but that was a big 'win' in real terms because it wasn't expected to be that close.  They will keep forcing another yes/no vote until they win or until the price of oil is less than $30 a barrel and even their economic plans then makes no sense.  Naughty Nic will probably still want independence then even if oil was worthless.

snap kmac arrives to balance up the story!!!!  Too predictable!  He must set his leftie alarm to go off at full blast whenever me and woodsey post!

[Woodsey]

Surely if the SNP are part of a coalition, they wouldn't have the front to demand another referendum would they?

What else are they so power hungry for?  Only thing they are in the game for.  They lost the yes/no 48/52 but that was a big 'win' in real terms because it wasn't expected to be that close.  They will keep forcing another yes/no vote until they win or until the price of oil is less than $30 a barrel and even their economic plans then make no sense.

Yup basically. When do we get the chance to vote them out FFS? 

[Kmac84]

Surely if the SNP are part of a coalition, they wouldn't have the front to demand another referendum would they?

Why would it be front to have another referendum, and why would it be 40 year?

It would be the democratic will of the Scottish people, if the SNP put in their 2016 manifesto for the Scottish Parliament a referendum and they are voted in by the electorate then there will and should be a referendum.  

As to why the SNP are so popular well the truth is Scotland has had enough of Labour, they were hand and glove with the tories during the referendu campaign, they aren't a left of centre party that people have faith in, we don't do UKIP and the Lib Dems are falling apart at the seams.  

I don't think England should worry about the SNP, if anything the people on the left should be thankful.

[nirvana]

I've followed this election campaign less than any other of my adult life.

Apathy on my part I guess.

The one question I'm eager to have answered, which I haven't found a decent article about is why the SNP are going to do so well, so soon after losing the referendum?

Surely logic suggests they would do really badly as there is no prospect of another referendum for another 40 years or so.

I can only think the Scots are embarrassed by their inability to step up when it mattered and are showing off now when it doesn't matter any more

[Woodsey]

I've followed this election campaign less than any other of my adult life.

Apathy on my part I guess.

The one question I'm eager to have answered, which I haven't found a decent article about is why the SNP are going to do so well, so soon after losing the referendum?

Surely logic suggests they would do really badly as there is no prospect of another referendum for another 40 years or so.

I can only think the Scots are embarrassed by their inability to step up when it mattered and are showing off now when it doesn't matter any more

Or lack a pair when it matters? 

[arbboy]

I've followed this election campaign less than any other of my adult life.

Apathy on my part I guess.

The one question I'm eager to have answered, which I haven't found a decent article about is why the SNP are going to do so well, so soon after losing the referendum?

Surely logic suggests they would do really badly as there is no prospect of another referendum for another 40 years or so.

I can only think the Scots are embarrassed by their inability to step up when it mattered and are showing off now when it doesn't matter any more

Or lack a pair when it matters?  

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/11553769/BP-sees-massive-shock-for-North-Sea-as-oil-glut-deepens.html

Or maybe they realise the numbers don't add up anymore.  

To say England shouldn't worry about the snp is comical.  The snp has the power to busto England beyond repair in the next 5 years then offski and leave us with all the problems when they finally when a 48/52 flip.  Even deadman would lose a 48/52 flip eventually if he run it enough times.  Would Nic turn St Andrews day into the annual yes/no vote until she finally wins a flip and can go it alone?

 We have never needed a tory majority more in my lifetime than in 2 weeks.  SNP will make labour look like tories spending wise if they get into power with the reds.

[scotty77]

I can't see Scottish Independence being an issue for a long, long time to come.

The Yes campaign constantly said it was a once in a generation chance from the get go.

A lot of people who voted Yes were swayed by nonsense economic figures that were dependent on the oil price.  And it looks like the Saudi's are gonna be keeping it low for a reasonable amount of time.

And the vote was 45/55 with I think 10-11% not voting, so a decent amount of the population were clearly happy with the status quo.

It'll be 35-40% for a good few years yet but of course they will be the ones who shout by far the loudest.

[The Camel]

Surely if the SNP are part of a coalition, they wouldn't have the front to demand another referendum would they?

Why would it be front to have another referendum, and why would it be 40 year?

It would be the democratic will of the Scottish people, if the SNP put in their 2016 manifesto for the Scottish Parliament a referendum and they are voted in by the electorate then there will and should be a referendum.  

As to why the SNP are so popular well the truth is Scotland has had enough of Labour, they were hand and glove with the tories during the referendu campaign, they aren't a left of centre party that people have faith in, we don't do UKIP and the Lib Dems are falling apart at the seams.  

I don't think England should worry about the SNP, if anything the people on the left should be thankful.

Because you can't keep having referendums until you win one. That would be farcical.

I'm not at worried by the SNP being part of a coalition, indeed I think it would be good for the country in alot of ways.

Just don't think another referendum is viable for another generation at least.