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Quote from: kp24 on November 25, 2013, 05:04:23 PM
I think we will come back strong but need to drop tremlett I think there batting is more fragile than ours despite our pathetic effort in last test
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Finn goes at over 4 an over and Rankin has no experience.
Tremlett played the role of third seamer well at Brisbane, went at 2.5 an over, took 4 wickets
After his injuries he is not going to blast teams out, and clearly we were outgunned by their pace, but will certainly help Cook maintain control on flat wickets
The possibility of Stokes at 6 as third seamer/batsman and Panesar as a second spinner and dropping Tremlett is a possibility for Adelaide and Sydney.
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Will Root go to three to replace Trott? Or will Bell be moved up do we think?
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Quote from: DungBeetle on November 25, 2013, 05:27:57 PM
Will Root go to three to replace Trott? Or will Bell be moved up do we think?
Root I would think
Could be either though
Number 6 is a tough call. Could be Bairstow but he struggled against the short stuff on our pitches, and would be tested again
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Re: 2013/14 Ashes thread
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November 25, 2013, 06:16:48 PM »
Quote from: TightEnd on November 25, 2013, 05:19:07 PM
Quote from: kp24 on November 25, 2013, 05:04:23 PM
I think we will come back strong but need to drop tremlett I think there batting is more fragile than ours despite our pathetic effort in last test
why?
Finn goes at over 4 an over and Rankin has no experience.
Tremlett played the role of third seamer well at Brisbane, went at 2.5 an over, took 4 wickets
After his injuries he is not going to blast teams out, and clearly we were outgunned by their pace, but will certainly help Cook maintain control on flat wickets
The possibility of Stokes at 6 as third seamer/batsman and Panesar as a second spinner and dropping Tremlett is a possibility for Adelaide and Sydney.
No reason to drop Tremlett at all, did everything that was expected. Plus with games he will get quicker and has experience in Aus.
Anderson on the other hand does need to step up. He's the senior bowler and needs to perform.
It will never happen but I would drop Swann, he is completely ineffective and the Aus defo have his number, his batting doesn't keep him in either atm.
Bresnan will get rushed back as soon as he is fit, gives the batting depth and wont batter an eyelid at the sledging
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Quote from: vegaslover on November 25, 2013, 06:16:48 PM
It will never happen but I would drop Swann, he is completely ineffective and the Aus defo have his number, his batting doesn't keep him in either atm.
Where 'have his number' means 'picking right-handed batsmen'.
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Bresnan if fit?
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That was a pretty big pasting. If they come back strong then fair play but I can't see it myself. I saw 4/6 Aussies to win series which seems pretty big and a good trading opportunity for big players as you will have plenty of chances to close a position.
Is that the "bounciest" track we just lost on? Terrible term I know. And we have a drop in pitch to come too. They will have choice of about 4 I expect. They are probably out measuring out 22 yards of airport runway now.
I grew up on Gower Smith and Lamb days where good fast bowling could wipe out great players. And we only have one great batsman who is a bit fidgety to start with. Too much pressure on Cook KP and Bell for me. Lump on. You need to check which test has the pitch that Johnson might not even play.
Good stuff though. I love all the sledging n bull too. This and Ryder Cup are my two favourite sports events by far. Come on England.
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Perth is similar to Brisbane IIRC
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Quote from: Tal on November 25, 2013, 11:16:53 PM
Perth is similar to Brisbane IIRC
What you doing commenting on sport? Thought you were into dancing and knitting and girls stuff lol
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Quote from: Woodsey on November 26, 2013, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Tal on November 25, 2013, 11:16:53 PM
Perth is similar to Brisbane IIRC
What you doing commenting on sport? Thought you were into dancing and knitting and girls stuff lol
Everything in moderation, dahhhhling.
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Quote from: TightEnd on November 25, 2013, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: DungBeetle on November 25, 2013, 05:27:57 PM
Will Root go to three to replace Trott? Or will Bell be moved up do we think?
Root I would think
Could be either though
Number 6 is a tough call. Could be Bairstow but he struggled against the short stuff on our pitches, and would be tested again
Bell has batted at 3 for Warwickshire for years (Trott used to open). To not give him the number 3 slot would be pretty disheartening for him given the number of times he has made it clear he'd rather be batting up the order but he's "happy doing a job for the team" down the order.
Only problem I guess is if they want to keep the 2 youngsters apart and not have them at 5 and 6. With Pieterson at 4 and Prior at 7 I don't see it being a problem.
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November 26, 2013, 01:41:32 AM »
I still believe we will win The Ashes.
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November 26, 2013, 09:29:50 AM »
Observation on the cricket spreads - I was expected Bell and Root to have decent boosts to their quotes due to them now batting one further up the order (at least) but this doesn't seem to have been reflected in the new prices.
Is this a rick, or do we think that they have had a boost, but it has been counteracted by the fact that the Aussie bowling looks a greater threat than anticicpated?
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Quote from: gherkin on November 26, 2013, 01:15:53 AM
Quote from: TightEnd on November 25, 2013, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: DungBeetle on November 25, 2013, 05:27:57 PM
Will Root go to three to replace Trott? Or will Bell be moved up do we think?
Root I would think
Could be either though
Number 6 is a tough call. Could be Bairstow but he struggled against the short stuff on our pitches, and would be tested again
Bell has batted at 3 for Warwickshire for years (Trott used to open). To not give him the number 3 slot would be pretty disheartening for him given the number of times he has made it clear he'd rather be batting up the order but he's "happy doing a job for the team" down the order.
Only problem I guess is if they want to keep the 2 youngsters apart and not have them at 5 and 6. With Pieterson at 4 and Prior at 7 I don't see it being a problem.
I would keep Bell at 5. Middle order will be too exposed otherwise for the newbies. Prior is currently a liability with the bat and can't be relied on to hang around
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Re: 2013/14 Ashes thread
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November 26, 2013, 12:44:42 PM »
Shows how far we've fallen - we used to have an embarrassment of riches in batting, and it was a question of which decent player to leave out, now we're trying to hide kids where we think the Aussies won't see them.
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