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Title: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Woodsey on October 19, 2009, 08:46:49 PM
Discuss........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221353/Youve-got-cat-OK-stay-Britain-officials-tell-Bolivian-immigrant.html


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Longy on October 19, 2009, 08:48:32 PM
Daily Mail in shock anti immigration story.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: gatso on October 19, 2009, 08:52:44 PM
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The solicitor who represented the Bolivian, Barry O'Leary, told the Sunday Telegraph that the cat was one detail among many in the case.

however the daily mail thought, 'fuck the facts, let's do a headline about the cat to see if we can stir up more xenophobia'


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Longines on October 19, 2009, 09:15:59 PM
Has the Daily Wail blamed Stephen Gately for immigration yet?


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Woodsey on October 19, 2009, 09:20:14 PM
Has the Daily Wail blamed Stephen Gately for immigration yet?

No only for people coming out.......


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Claw75 on October 19, 2009, 09:20:16 PM
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An illegal immigrant was allowed to stay in Britain because he had a cat, it was revealed yesterday.

That sure would have been the reason.

Quite scary reading the comments how many people believe this could actually happen.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Woodsey on October 19, 2009, 09:21:13 PM
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An illegal immigrant was allowed to stay in Britain because he had a cat, it was revealed yesterday.

That sure would have been the reason.

Quite scary reading the comments how many people believe this could actually happen.

Do we know the facts to the contrary?


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Claw75 on October 19, 2009, 09:24:38 PM
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An illegal immigrant was allowed to stay in Britain because he had a cat, it was revealed yesterday.

That sure would have been the reason.

Quite scary reading the comments how many people believe this could actually happen.

Do we know the facts to the contrary?

Common sense.

Plus I spent years investigating complaints against the IND. A Decision to allow an illegal immigrant to stay in this country based on them having a cat simply would not be made. FACT.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: henrik777 on October 19, 2009, 09:31:08 PM
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An illegal immigrant was allowed to stay in Britain because he had a cat, it was revealed yesterday.

That sure would have been the reason.

Quite scary reading the comments how many people believe this could actually happen.

Do we know the facts to the contrary?

Common sense.

Plus I spent years investigating complaints against the IND. A Decision to allow an illegal immigrant to stay in this country based on them having a cat simply would not be made. FACT.

But at the same time we can't deport without proof of id ?

Sandy


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Wardonkey on October 19, 2009, 09:33:31 PM
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An illegal immigrant was allowed to stay in Britain because he had a cat, it was revealed yesterday.

That sure would have been the reason.

Quite scary reading the comments how many people believe this could actually happen.

Do we know the facts to the contrary?

Common sense.

Plus I spent years investigating complaints against the IND. A Decision to allow an illegal immigrant to stay in this country based on them having a cat simply would not be made. FACT.

But at the same time we can't deport without proof of id ?

Sandy

Compulsary collars?


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: matt674 on October 19, 2009, 10:15:26 PM
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An illegal immigrant was allowed to stay in Britain because he had a cat, it was revealed yesterday.

That sure would have been the reason.

Quite scary reading the comments how many people believe this could actually happen.

Do we know the facts to the contrary?

Common sense.

Plus I spent years investigating complaints against the IND. A Decision to allow an illegal immigrant to stay in this country based on them having a cat simply would not be made. FACT.

Seriously? I got two just in case


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Claw75 on October 19, 2009, 11:58:36 PM
Fairly good blog piece on this article here:

http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/10/littlejohn-lies-about-cat.html


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: bolt pp on October 20, 2009, 12:03:44 AM
if youve got a dog indoors and no one to look after it they cant send you to prison either


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Longy on October 20, 2009, 12:07:56 AM
I didn't click the article was by Littlejohn, the guy is a prize arse and if we could get him deported that would be a result. The people who work for the Mail should thoroughly ashamed about this constant campaign of disinformation about immigration, that dumb middle class England seems to accept as fact.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Dewi_cool on October 20, 2009, 12:09:58 AM
kill the cat, get the updates back


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2009, 12:10:53 AM
I didn't click the article was by Littlejohn, the guy is a prize arse and if we could get him deported that would be a result. The people who work for the Mail should thoroughly ashamed about this constant campaign of disinformation about immigration, that dumb middle class England seems to accept as fact.

The story linked above wasn't by LittleJohn, but he's going to comment on it in his column tomorrow


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: boldie on October 20, 2009, 08:06:52 AM
The story is complete bollocks obviously...as most things in the Daily Mail are.


But I'm getting a hamster, just in case.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: maxward on October 20, 2009, 11:17:15 PM
Given that cats came to our country from north africa there is some irony here...


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: gatso on October 20, 2009, 11:49:21 PM
Given that cats came to our country from north africa there is some irony here...

so did humans didn't they?


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: maxward on October 20, 2009, 11:50:46 PM
Dont tell Nick Grffin


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Claw75 on October 21, 2009, 12:07:34 AM
in case anyone doesn't know, Nick Griffin is on Question Time tomorrow. Wonder if the cat story will get raised?


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: maxward on October 21, 2009, 12:11:46 AM
A tv researcher tells me that for the first time ever the audience are signing contracst to limit the questions asked to those vetted before the show. Ordinarily they file there questions and are chosen, with free development of each question no strings. Interesting to see how rigid it will come over?

It sickens me the people who say he shouldnt be on, like in some way if we are exposed to racist propaganda that we wil all somehow convert to the third reich....that ignorance is only marginally more insulting than the media bias towads discounting the fact BNP were democratically elected


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Claw75 on October 21, 2009, 12:17:28 AM
It sickens me the people who say he shouldnt be on, like in some way if we are exposed to racist propaganda that we wil all somehow convert to the third reich....that ignorance is only marginally more insulting than the media bias towads discounting the fact BNP were democratically elected

agreed


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Woodsey on October 21, 2009, 12:22:26 AM
A tv researcher tells me that for the first time ever the audience are signing contracst to limit the questions asked to those vetted before the show. Ordinarily they file there questions and are chosen, with free development of each question no strings. Interesting to see how rigid it will come over?

It sickens me the people who say he shouldnt be on, like in some way if we are exposed to racist propaganda that we wil all somehow convert to the third reich....that ignorance is only marginally more insulting than the media bias towads discounting the fact BNP were democratically elected

If they don't they will just be asked the same questions they have been asked a million times before and the conversation will just go round in circles. They have to limit the direct are you racist? type of questions as they aren't going to get a different answer this time.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: kinboshi on October 21, 2009, 04:26:21 AM
Why do people read the daily hate mail?

:dontask:


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: bolt pp on October 21, 2009, 04:28:28 AM
Why do people read the daily hate mail?

:dontask:

yeah it is great


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: AndrewT on October 21, 2009, 10:04:04 AM
Why do people read the daily hate mail?

:dontask:

I only buy it for the crossword.

And maybe a little bit for the racism but it's mostly the crossword.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: CelticGeezeer on October 21, 2009, 01:29:58 PM


"Hurrah for the Blackshirts"

A famous example of the Daily Mail's longstanding commitment to impeccably balanced and unbiased coverage of controversial political events. This headline appeared on the front page of the 8 July 1934 edition, and accompanied a piece on Sir Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists that read, in part: "If the Blackshirts movement had any need of justification, the Red Hooligans who savagely and systematically tried to wreck Sir Oswald Mosley's huge and magnificently successful meeting at Olympia last night would have supplied it."

Subsequent articles emphasised the paper's unstinting support -- on 15 January 1934, the BUF was described as "a well organised party of the right ready to take over responsibility for national affairs with the same directness of purpose and energy of method as Hitler and Mussolini have displayed". This betrays the paper's similar enthusiasm for Fascist parties elsewhere in Europe, especially Adolf Hitler's burgeoning Nazi movement ("The sturdy young Nazis are Europe's guardians against the Communist danger"). As early as 24 September 1930, the paper's proprietor Harold Harmsworth, Lord Rothermere, wrote:

    "These young Germans have discovered, as I am glad to note the young men and women of England are discovering, that it is no good trusting to the old politicians. Accordingly they have formed, as I would like to see our British youth form, a Parliamentary party of their own. [...] The older generation of Germans were our enemies. Must we make enemies of this younger generation too?"

On 10 July 1933, Rothermere continued:

    "I urge all British young men and women to study closely the progress of the Nazi regime in Germany. They must not be misled by the misrepresentations of its opponents. The most spiteful distracters of the Nazis are to be found in precisely the same sections of the British public and press as are most vehement in their praises of the Soviet regime in Russia. They have started a clamorous campaign of denunciation against what they call "Nazi atrocities" which, as anyone who visits Germany quickly discovers for himself, consists merely of a few isolated acts of violence such as are inevitable among a nation half as big again as ours, but which have been generalized, multiplied and exaggerated to give the impression that Nazi rule is a bloodthirsty tyranny."

These effusive compliments did not go unnoticed. On 7 December 1933, Hitler himself wrote to Rothermere:

    "I should like to express the appreciation of countless Germans, who regard me as their spokesman, for the wise and beneficial public support which you have given to a policy that we all hope will contribute to the enduring pacification of Europe. Just as we are fanatically determined to defend ourselves against attack, so do we reject the idea of taking the initiative in bringing about a war. I am convinced that no one who fought in the front trenches during the world war, no matter in what European country, desires another conflict."

The above citations, plus numerous similar articles that ran right through the 1930s, may explain why the Mail has been oddly and indeed uncharacteristically muted when it comes to championing its glorious past, especially at a time when its rivals are falling over themselves to produce "historic" reprints of memorable editions from decades earlier.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Dingdell on October 21, 2009, 04:33:31 PM
I still don't understand the foreign student rules we have. You can apply to study here and after a certain number of years apply to stay? I have 2 clients who are mature students - studying for studying sake - neither of them want their degree, they are just doing it for permanent entry into the country.

They are nice people and all that but it's all bit backdoor imo.  :dontask:


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Woodsey on October 21, 2009, 04:36:37 PM
I still don't understand the foreign student rules we have. You can apply to study here and after a certain number of years apply to stay? I have 2 clients who are mature students - studying for studying sake - neither of them want their degree, they are just doing it for permanent entry into the country.

They are nice people and all that but it's all bit backdoor imo.  :dontask:

You must work for the daily mail making up stories like that?


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Dingdell on October 21, 2009, 04:38:33 PM
I still don't understand the foreign student rules we have. You can apply to study here and after a certain number of years apply to stay? I have 2 clients who are mature students - studying for studying sake - neither of them want their degree, they are just doing it for permanent entry into the country.

They are nice people and all that but it's all bit backdoor imo.  :dontask:

You must work for the daily mail making up stories like that?

Lol! I'm only going on what they told me - that after they have studied here for long enough they can apply for residency - so I'm asking is that possible?


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Claw75 on October 21, 2009, 04:38:59 PM
I still don't understand the foreign student rules we have. You can apply to study here and after a certain number of years apply to stay? I have 2 clients who are mature students - studying for studying sake - neither of them want their degree, they are just doing it for permanent entry into the country.

They are nice people and all that but it's all bit backdoor imo.  :dontask:

*schoolgirl snigger*


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Dingdell on October 21, 2009, 04:40:16 PM
I still don't understand the foreign student rules we have. You can apply to study here and after a certain number of years apply to stay? I have 2 clients who are mature students - studying for studying sake - neither of them want their degree, they are just doing it for permanent entry into the country.

They are nice people and all that but it's all bit backdoor imo.  :dontask:

*schoolgirl snigger*

oooh - you've just given me an idea.....about you know what.... ;D


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Claw75 on October 21, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
I still don't understand the foreign student rules we have. You can apply to study here and after a certain number of years apply to stay? I have 2 clients who are mature students - studying for studying sake - neither of them want their degree, they are just doing it for permanent entry into the country.

They are nice people and all that but it's all bit backdoor imo.  :dontask:

*schoolgirl snigger*


oooh - you've just given me an idea.....about you know what.... ;D

oh dear


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Woodsey on October 21, 2009, 04:43:49 PM
I still don't understand the foreign student rules we have. You can apply to study here and after a certain number of years apply to stay? I have 2 clients who are mature students - studying for studying sake - neither of them want their degree, they are just doing it for permanent entry into the country.

They are nice people and all that but it's all bit backdoor imo.  :dontask:

You must work for the daily mail making up stories like that?

Lol! I'm only going on what they told me - that after they have studied here for long enough they can apply for residency - so I'm asking is that possible?
Probably, I'm just taking the piss out of the cynical bunch on here who believe its all made up.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Dingdell on October 21, 2009, 04:47:52 PM
I still don't understand the foreign student rules we have. You can apply to study here and after a certain number of years apply to stay? I have 2 clients who are mature students - studying for studying sake - neither of them want their degree, they are just doing it for permanent entry into the country.

They are nice people and all that but it's all bit backdoor imo.  :dontask:

You must work for the daily mail making up stories like that?

Lol! I'm only going on what they told me - that after they have studied here for long enough they can apply for residency - so I'm asking is that possible?
Probably, I'm just taking the piss out of the cynical bunch on here who believe its all made up.

Sorry - I was obv whooshed!


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: kinboshi on October 21, 2009, 04:48:30 PM
I still don't understand the foreign student rules we have. You can apply to study here and after a certain number of years apply to stay? I have 2 clients who are mature students - studying for studying sake - neither of them want their degree, they are just doing it for permanent entry into the country.

They are nice people and all that but it's all bit backdoor imo.  :dontask:

You must work for the daily mail making up stories like that?

Lol! I'm only going on what they told me - that after they have studied here for long enough they can apply for residency - so I'm asking is that possible?
Probably, I'm just taking the piss out of the cynical bunch on here who believe its all made up.

If it's not made up, can you send me a link to verify the story please?   The BNP manifesto doesn't count btw.

kkthxbye


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Woodsey on October 21, 2009, 04:50:40 PM
I still don't understand the foreign student rules we have. You can apply to study here and after a certain number of years apply to stay? I have 2 clients who are mature students - studying for studying sake - neither of them want their degree, they are just doing it for permanent entry into the country.

They are nice people and all that but it's all bit backdoor imo.  :dontask:

You must work for the daily mail making up stories like that?

Lol! I'm only going on what they told me - that after they have studied here for long enough they can apply for residency - so I'm asking is that possible?
Probably, I'm just taking the piss out of the cynical bunch on here who believe its all made up.

If it's not made up, can you send me a link to verify the story please?   The BNP manifesto doesn't count btw.

kkthxbye

No can't be arsed, was just having a laugh :D


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Claw75 on October 21, 2009, 04:50:58 PM
Don't think anyone suggested the story was 'all made up'. clearly the guy was allowed to stay in the country following an appeal. The bit people had issue with was the right-wing press reporting that the decision had been made based on the fact that the guy had a cat, which is clearly bollocks.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Woodsey on October 21, 2009, 04:56:20 PM
Don't think anyone suggested the story was 'all made up'. clearly the guy was allowed to stay in the country following an appeal. The bit people had issue with was the right-wing press reporting that the decision had been made based on the fact that the guy had a cat, which is clearly bollocks.

We need a tougue in cheek smiley I reckon, in the meantime this is the closest :P


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Ironside on October 21, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
Don't think anyone suggested the story was 'all made up'. clearly the guy was allowed to stay in the country following an appeal. The bit people had issue with was the right-wing press reporting that the decision had been made based on the fact that the guy had a cat, which is clearly bollocks.

We need a tougue in cheek smiley I reckon, in the meantime this is the closest :P

we are a few mods down at the moment including the smiley mod in the mean time if you spot a smiley on the web you think might fit in on the forum send me a pm and i might pop it up

obvisously i dont want 500 PMs a hour from every member


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: RED-DOG on October 21, 2009, 05:07:03 PM
If you want to read some "interesting" stuff, try googling the words 'Littlejohn Gypsy'


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: kinboshi on October 21, 2009, 05:13:55 PM
If you want to read some "interesting" stuff, try googling the words 'Littlejohn Gypsy'

Littlejohn bigot probably would work as well.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: pokefast on October 21, 2009, 05:15:52 PM
If you want to read some "interesting" stuff, try googling the words 'Littlejohn Gypsy'

Sickening drivel.

What's worse is that some will believe it.


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Claw75 on October 21, 2009, 05:16:49 PM
If you want to read some "interesting" stuff, try googling the words 'Littlejohn Gypsy'

Sickening drivel.

What's worse is that many believe it.

fyp


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: kinboshi on October 21, 2009, 05:17:05 PM
If you want to read some "interesting" stuff, try googling the words 'Littlejohn Gypsy'

Sickening drivel.

What's worse is that most Daily Hate Mail readers will believe it.

FYP


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Bongo on October 21, 2009, 05:38:45 PM
Did you know the chairman of the Daily Mail's parent company is a non-dom for tax purposes?

Makes me wonder what the Daily Mail would make of it...


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: CelticGeezeer on October 21, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
They are just following in Murdoch's foot steps.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_report/1999/02/99/e-cyclopedia/302366.stm


Title: Re: Another Comedy Immigration Decision
Post by: Claw75 on October 26, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8325627.stm