[By all accounts Hull City are doomed if they go down,living way way beyond their means and relegation will cripple them.]

I'd assume there are people waiting in the wings just playing the waiting game before swooping in to buy at the last minute to buy Watford.

Weren't they being lined up for a purchase during the summer or towards the tail end of last season?

Good location I guess.

By all accounts Hull City are doomed if they go down,living way way beyond their means and relegation will cripple them.

Couldn't disagree more with this statement regarding Hull City. Don't believe everything you read in the tabloids. From a financial perspective one of the healthier clubs in the league and living well within their means.

Not seen X Factor for a few weeks, is Joe worthy of being odds on or is there any value in the other three at decent prices?

I've taken Hull tonight at 3.8. As already stated cracking value considering Evertons injuries and Hulls current revival.

Also having a look at the overs on the goals, both teams have leaky defences.

Backed City & over 3.5 goals so good night all round

I've taken Hull tonight at 3.8. As already stated cracking value considering Evertons injuries and Hulls current revival.

Also having a look at the overs on the goals, both teams have leaky defences.

We call it cuppies. Had a game with my nephews yesterday, they still can't beat me but I have to actually run about now to win!

I do agree that its been around for a long time and isn't, as the media would have us believe, a recent trend and I also agree that it's easier to target the player for disciplinary measures then the crowd for any number of reasons.

My problem is that I'm disgusted at seeing football fans act like this on a regular basis and I think that regardless of what has happened in the world of football there is no excuse for it. I mean as a Spurs fan I was gutted when Sol Campbell left and the way in which he did but I found the response from a number of fans to be disgusting! (I won't bother going into detail, I'm sure you all know the kind of things)

Personally I love the passion within football and I want that to extend to the players. I welcome opposition players sliding on their knees in front of me after I've given them some stick BUT I do understand that the violent mentality of a minority of fans precludes this from being the reality.

So if a player runs the length of the pitch to celebrate in front of the opposition fans and the fans react like a bunch of savages it's the player that has the problem?!

I've been a season ticket holder most of my life and have abused the players as much as the next person (and in response expect to have to deal with the same in return) but I've never seen anything that made me want to physically hurt anyone.

I just worry that we're taking all responsibility away from the fans to be decent human beings and think it's a dangerous road to go down.

As a Hull City fan I can confirm the abject embarrassment I feel everytime the fans decide to subject us all to this "celebration" and can only sit with my head in my hands wondering where it all went so wrong!

Any fancy for Portsmouth tonight at 4.2?

Don't have a strong fancy for them but just wondering about value.

Better then I normally do at Beverley! ;o)

Cheers for the tip

Hi Blatch,

Long time lurker, finally decided to register.

Just wondered if it's too late to invest in this?

Mark