Racing Thread

[Simon Galloway]

I needed the money badly.  Great defence.

[horseplayer]

Another good egg no doubt

Expect him to show up within racing media within the decade

[bookiebasher]

More pond life stealing from honest punters while the gambling commission does nothing.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=14745024&category=0

It's the tip of the iceberg. Only the stupid ones get caught.

How the government and GC allow Joe Public to bet on horses to lose is a joke.

If you want to make money from horse racing it's far easier to lay a horse when you know it's not going to win rather
than trying to prepare a horse for a coup.

All the GC rules and regulations for Licensed bookmakers are ridiculous when essentially anyone laying a horse on Betfair
is doing the same as a bookmaker but without any real checks if you do it clever enough.

Nothing will change , the GC will continue to be a pathetic quango with pen pushers.

[atdc21]

Marlet rasen 2.0
I thought Kasakh Noir would be a bit shorter than Wolfcatcher on what they have done and how the races have panned out.
( limited form i know ) do think Noirs second race he ran into a couple of real gooduns.
Maybe its because im not usually keen on those Ferguson/Bloomfield horses, they are often underpriced bridle horses.

[atdc21]

They have made wolfcatcher fav now !!
Doesnt seem right, maybe THEY know

[exstream]

did the forecast on what you said
did i win?!

[exstream]

not even close

[atdc21]

Yes You got the forecast, nice one.

[doubleup]

Sorry to hark on about this again, but here is the full info on the horse cheating case

http://www.britishhorseracing.com/disciplinary_notices/disciplinary-panel-reasons-regarding-darren-egan-and-philip-langford/

The time span of the alleged conspiracy stretched from 17 June 2013 to 16 July 2013. Prior to that, Mr Langford, a businessman, had been a substantial gambler placing over 50,000 bets through his Betfair account (and a second account in the name of one of his employees) between 2004 and June 2013. Over that lengthy period, his betting showed no concentration upon laying or backing particular horses, jockeys, trainers or owners. But this changed suddenly in mid-June 2013. He began to lay horses ridden by the apprentice Darren Egan, who had held a licence since January 2012. Mr Langford also began to use a Betdaq account for racing bets from 27 June 2013.

6. By 17 July, the top 11 lay liabilities ever risked on his own Betfair account were for Egan rides; 14 of the top 20 lay liabilities on the Betfair account in his employee’s name were for Egan rides; and 14 of the 18 bets placed through Betdaq were for Egan rides. Additionally, two further heavy lay betting risks were taken against Miss Pike’s rides.

7. On 17 July 2013, Betfair suspended Mr Langford’s accounts. By this date, he had risked £838,870 on Egan rides, making an overall profit of £53,560 on the Betfair and Betdaq accounts. Analysis of the Betfair accounts shows that Mr Langford was taking extraordinary percentages of both the win and place markets for the larger Egan liabilities he risked. He took a quarter to a third of the whole market for his win lays, and frequently took 70-80% of the place market.

If any of you were on a jury, would you have any reasonable doubt at all that that these guys "interfered with the process of gambling"?

[bookiebasher]

Sorry to hark on about this again, but here is the full info on the horse cheating case

http://www.britishhorseracing.com/disciplinary_notices/disciplinary-panel-reasons-regarding-darren-egan-and-philip-langford/

The time span of the alleged conspiracy stretched from 17 June 2013 to 16 July 2013. Prior to that, Mr Langford, a businessman, had been a substantial gambler placing over 50,000 bets through his Betfair account (and a second account in the name of one of his employees) between 2004 and June 2013. Over that lengthy period, his betting showed no concentration upon laying or backing particular horses, jockeys, trainers or owners. But this changed suddenly in mid-June 2013. He began to lay horses ridden by the apprentice Darren Egan, who had held a licence since January 2012. Mr Langford also began to use a Betdaq account for racing bets from 27 June 2013.

6. By 17 July, the top 11 lay liabilities ever risked on his own Betfair account were for Egan rides; 14 of the top 20 lay liabilities on the Betfair account in his employee’s name were for Egan rides; and 14 of the 18 bets placed through Betdaq were for Egan rides. Additionally, two further heavy lay betting risks were taken against Miss Pike’s rides.

7. On 17 July 2013, Betfair suspended Mr Langford’s accounts. By this date, he had risked £838,870 on Egan rides, making an overall profit of £53,560 on the Betfair and Betdaq accounts. Analysis of the Betfair accounts shows that Mr Langford was taking extraordinary percentages of both the win and place markets for the larger Egan liabilities he risked. He took a quarter to a third of the whole market for his win lays, and frequently took 70-80% of the place market.

If any of you were on a jury, would you have any reasonable doubt at all that that these guys "interfered with the process of gambling"?

Surprised in the Racing Post article no mention of a criminal prosecution. Surely there is a case to be found for fraud.

[TightEnd]

another large gameble on

1790-1 on first shows, now a tenth of the price for the four timer



seven summits has been off for a year, formely trained by barney curley, ran on the flat off 95 running today off 50

we'll see how they get on!

[atdc21]

shane kelly on all of them- job jockey. some say couldnt lie straight in bed 

[RickBFA]

Love these gambling coups, hope they pull it off.

[atdc21]

Dont fancy much with the races we have today, but bit like yesterday the carlisle 4.05 is only 3 runner race thought the fav ( Subtle Grey )should be bit shorter than it is (10/11) to beat these 2 given his form, giving bit of weight away but shoud be ok.

[atdc21]

Again like yesterday it won but made hard work of it.