Play Along With Snoopy

[Suited_Jock]

$15 in the pot just out of personal preference i double it up to $30 dolla

[snoopy1239]

Jens taken my laptop to Luton (it has the hand history on it), but I'll post the next step when she returns later tonight.

[tantrum]

re-raise - 24-30

[snoopy1239]

Well, it seems as if most people are agreed that I need to be re-raising to $25-30. I made it $26 to play, but looking at the size of the pot and the size of everyone's stacks, I would like have pushed it up to at least $30 to make sure that I don't get mutliple callers.

Okay, me to speak first, what would you do and why?


(STEP 2)


***** Hand History for Game 5489792374 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, December 08, 01:42:39 ET 2006
Table Jackpot #1304230 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6

Seat 1: Pavel55 ( $256.55 )
Seat 3: snoopy1239 ( $530.15 )
Seat 4: A_Reza ( $116.82 )
Seat 6: No_remorse1 ( $712.45 )
Seat 2: JOSJOJO ( $83.20 )
Seat 5: neverfold678 ( $40.50 )
snoopy1239 posts small blind [$1].
A_Reza posts big blind [$2].

Dealt to snoopy1239 [ ]

neverfold678 folds.
No_remorse1 raises [$6]
Pavel55 calls [$6]
JOSJOJO folds

snoopy1239 raises to [$26]
Bongo raises to [?]
Longines raises to [$28]
byronkincaid raises to [$24]
johnmul99 raises to [$30]
jezza777 raises to [$18]
booder raises to [$26]
Suited_Jock raises to [$30]
tantrum raises to [$27]

A_Reza folds.
No_remorse1 calls [$20]
Pavel55 calls [$20]

** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]

snoopy1239...

[byronkincaid]

you don't want 2 callers with AA?

the pot is 80 right?

I bet 68

[snoopy1239]

you don't want 2 callers with AA?

the pot is 80 right?

I bet 68

Not in cash and especially with stacks of that size. Aces is a hand where you can do the lot, so I don't fancy putting $500+ on the line with just top pair against 2 other players.

With 2 players, I find it more difficult to work out where I stand.

[snoopy1239]

you don't want 2 callers with AA?

the pot is 80 right?

I bet 68

Just out of interest, what do you do if:

(1) Your $68 bet is re-raised by one of your opponents
(2) One of your opponents calls and the Turn comes a blank.
(3) One of your opponents calls and the Turn comes a scare card (eg. spade)

[johnmul99]

why do you not want 2 callers? i'm happy with the 2 callers, there is a poss flush draw but the only hand i'm worried about is a set of or , With $80 in the pot im putting out a feeler bet of $35, to see if anyones hit anything. with a reraise im first thinking pocket 10s or jacks and i raise again, with a call im thinking a slow played set or flush draw if i have 2 callers now then i would be very cautious IMO

[TightEnd]

1) repop and find out whether he has a set or make him really pay to hit non nut spade draw. Problem is JJ could push there too to your repop. With no info, its a tough spot...will a pusher all in have 99-KK or a set?

2) fire again, pot bet

3) check call, with nut flush draw, and try to keep pot as small as possible until the river then reassess


You are potentially doing your whole stack in any of the three scenarios


I actually don't bet $68 post flop, I might bet $120 making it look like AK (overbet appearing weak) either of the other two might take you for weakness with his TPTK or overpair in range 99-JJ  and then you have them

If they flat call I am more worried about a set than if they raise to that overbet. If it then comes a blank turn I am probably getting stacked to a set. If it comes a spade on the turn I can play the percentages and take him for a spade or a set if he fires strongly if I feel so inclined

[byronkincaid]

you don't want 2 callers with AA?

the pot is 80 right?

I bet 68

Just out of interest, what do you do if:

(1) Your $68 bet is re-raised by one of your opponents
(2) One of your opponents calls and the Turn comes a blank.
(3) One of your opponents calls and the Turn comes a scare card (eg. spade)

I try to play a bit laggy preflop cos it makes it easier to play on later streets, people will stack off with over pairs and Top pair cos they think you're at it all the time. I always C-bet pretty much unless it's some kind of scarey board with a ton of callers. this board ain't that scarey ATM IMO 2 pair seems unlikely poss set yeah but there always is right?

I'm looking to stack an overpair here or charge them for their flush draws.

1) I'm pretty happy to be 3-betting here and looking to get all in against one opponent.

2) Sometimes I bet, sometimes I check raise. Again looking to get all in.

3) We got the As so maybe I check/call maybe I just bet out again dunno it just depends on how I'm playing and he's playing i guess.

[tantrum]

It is very difficult to analyse this hand tbh, as without any info on your opponents in NHLE you will never know were you stand.  

You can put them on any range and only presume the situation, if one of them likes to call with suited connectors then your hand might or might not be good here. You got 2 callers now and you don't know anything about them, so it is time to find out.  

The play post-flop is mostly dependant on your reads on your opponents.  You say that there is no info, it is your first hand in this cash game?

NHLE is 70% of reads 30% of maths according to some of the top players out there.  

If 2 callers call it means that one of them might me looser then the other one, so bet out (pot bet) against 2 opponents and see who stays.  

I think pavel will stay and he is prob ahead there if he calls.
No-floper - I presume if he was raising from e.p he is the one with big pair.

This is providing that they are pretty standard players.

So I would say you are ahead against no-floper
and prob behind pavel

(but might be wrong here

[byronkincaid]

a lot of people 8 table and don't get many reads

[snoopy1239]

why do you not want 2 callers? i'm happy with the 2 callers, there is a poss flush draw but the only hand i'm worried about is a set of or , With $80 in the pot im putting out a feeler bet of $35, to see if anyones hit anything. with a reraise im first thinking pocket 10s or jacks and i raise again, with a call im thinking a slow played set or flush draw if i have 2 callers now then i would be very cautious IMO

The way I play I prefer to have a better idea of where I stand. I don't like playing big pots against 2 players because you end up making too many guesses or assumptions. Just my personal preference, some people have no problem playing huge pots against multiple callers, but I'm not a fan.

[snoopy1239]

1) repop and find out whether he has a set or make him really pay to hit non nut spade draw. Problem is JJ could push there too to your repop. With no info, its a tough spot...will a pusher all in have 99-KK or a set?

This is one of my biggest worries, it could cost me my entire stack to find out. Do I really want to re-reraise only to fold if he moves all-in?

2) fire again, pot bet

If they have the set, then they'll probably move in here, but they may also do the same with an overpair, so, once again, it's going to cost me my whole stack to find out.

3) check call, with nut flush draw, and try to keep pot as small as possible until the river then reassess

I agree, I don't think I'd have much choice.

You are potentially doing your whole stack in any of the three scenarios

That's why it's such a tricky hand and why I'd prefer to play against just one player - so as to minimise the chances of doing my whole stack.


The biggest problem I see here is that the flush draw could encourage someone with a set to push in on the flop, which is what someone with Jacks or Tens would do.

[TightEnd]

...will a pusher all in have 99-KK or a set?

I agree with you snoops, with no notes or prior knowledge thats why you probably should stack off here as an overpair and a set may play it the same way. Without the nut flush draw, I don't hink an oppo holding spades does