"Dusk till Dawn" Poker Club In Nottingham Diary (by Rob Yong)

[snoopy1239]

Rob.

Fascinating read as always.

You could always ask Ironside to change your alias if you're feeling left out. 

We could have a name my new name thread. 

I'm keeping it simple. How about Yongsta?

[Rooky9]

  Again!

[Royal Flush]

Rob.

Fascinating read as always.

You could always ask Ironside to change your alias if you're feeling left out. 

We could have a name my new name thread. 

I'm keeping it simple. How about Yongsta?

You can actually change your own name...

Have fun in Scotland!

[robyong]

Got a 9.30am appointment with a shop and bar fitting company at the premises tomorrow and then another marathon session with my gaming lawyer at 12pm.

Seems like all of the admin and running around is falling on my shoulders and the list of crap to go through gets longer instead of smaller. How much would I pay to wake up tomorrow, relax, and nip up the club for a beer and a heads-up match against some fish like Flushy - A LOT! I havn't selpt for 48 hours as I write this, which can't be good for you.

Still fully intend to get to Glasgow on Saturday to check out Cin Cin's, just need to sort out travel arrangements and hooking up with Chubbs who lives in sunny Burnley. I want to have got round the main card clubs by end of March, and there's no reason why we cant all co-operate together, for example, supplying dealers for Festival etc. 


When I explained my plans to the Bank Manager he was nodding at me politley, but I could tell he was thinking "this isn't going to work, poker is just a fad on TV". His first commnent after my detailed enthusiastic redition was," so your worst case is losing the £1m on the re-furb, and having a £250k per annum lease around your neck for 15 years, okay, I'll set the bank accounts up, but don't expect any overdraft or loans for this project, how's sf group doing?". Charming, no VIP membership for you me thinks!

A lovely chap on Blondepoker going under the name of TVB PM'd me and offered to give the club the web domain www.dtdpoker.com, how nice is that? Its not often that people go out of theire was to be so generous. Its much appreciated.

Anyway, that Crypto is a strange site, holding AA I am all-in in a £12K pot on a AA7 flop, the other guy has 77 of course, how does a 7 come on the river?

Cheers Rob

[The Nomad]

Hi Rob did you check out the gaming lisence required for the dealers or have things fundamentally changed in the last few years.

[robyong]

Had to check the dates again, it really is Friday the 13th, no wonder Chubby Nowab's first draft of the web site was like a horror story. Never mind, small acorns and all that.

Today I met with some contractors and also scheduled a meeting with the company that did the Broadway for next Friday. Ideally I'd like 3 companies to compare service, prices and ideas etc but I'll see how things go next week. The company I met today do my office fitouts but have a licencing division aswell, so I know them, but that damn Broadway looks so good.

Its looking increasing unlikely that my property company, Matrix, which Nick runs, will be able to contribute much to the Poker Club refurb, due to current committments on a development they are working on.

This means higher costs and relying on someone else, but thats life. I think I was being a bit unrealistic anyway, sort of "cross that bridge when I come to it" and "we'll sort something out" type of thing. Now that reality is here, and we have to start work in April to open in 2006,  these slight problems are surfacing.

There's quite a few other things that I conveniently "forgot" to give proper consideration to before commiting myself to the £3m 15 year lease, such as not costing in price of the cash and tournament chips (50p each chip and we need a load of them) or providing for any flooing in the gaming area. Never mind, my accountancy is bit rusty.

Me, Nick and Chubbs are setting of at 11am tomorrow for our 1st poker club trip, The Cincinatti Club, one of many over the next few months.

Cheers Rob

[robyong]

Hi Rob did you check out the gaming lisence required for the dealers or have things fundamentally changed in the last few years.

Hi Nomad,

A licenced dealer MUST deal the final table of a tournament I am told, but my solicitors and the gaming commission are sorting all of that out now. I'm actually hoping to hold "dealer tourneys", its not illegal, just need permission off the employer of the dealer.................................

Cheers Rob

[The_nun]

GL Rob, ..
Whish I had your balls...

NO rephrase that....


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[snoopy1239]

Rob.

What date do you intend to open? Is this still a realistic date?

Apologies. I'm sure the answer is in this thread somewhere.

cheers

snoops

[The Nomad]

Hi rob I think you can get a better price than 50 or are they the ones with the microchips in the so chipping machines can recognise them these u dont need I would of have thought .      Heres the answer to your wage bill  If a dealer doesnot need a liscence he can accept tips same as doormen valets etc therefore they should be paying the house to get on the table, same as US and Austria, the only problem with that is the UK players are notoriouslybad tippers you only have to see them playing away its not that they are naturally mean but since 1968 they have got out of the habit.Players have to be trained to tip but cannot see a british floorman explaining to a playerwhy he must do so they just dont know how. So thats a nice little chicken and egg problem.        get another quote on the chips they saw you coming........   

[dik9]

Microchips in chips? I think someone has fed you a line there Nomad, unless there was some sarcasm in it

Gaming Law states that no person can accept any gratuity with regards to gaming. This includes soft gaming i.e. poker, unfortunately. With the new gaming commission, and de-regulation this may change in the future, but I believe that it is way way in the future. Fingers crossed though, hopefully not too long.

[ifm]

Microchips in chips? I think someone has fed you a line there Nomad, unless there was some sarcasm in it

It's true but mainly to prevent counterfeiters (can also track gambling habits though).

Gaming Law states that no person can accept any gratuity with regards to gaming.

Quite rightly too!

[I KNOW IT]

Rob,
Whoever you finally choose to be your Tournament Director/ Cardroom manager , I hope you consider sending them to America for  a week or 2 during one of their major Festivals (as in a busmans holiday).
I truly believe that the experience they would gain is priceless in seeing how they handle things on a large scale.
I remember last year at the Rio, there were 6 tournys , sit & go's and cash games running simultanously with out the slightest hitch. Had to be seen to be believed.
The Americans are really streets ahead when it comes to running tournys as well you know
Keep up the good work
Craig

[The Nomad]

Hi Dik9    there is definately something in the chips to enable  electronic recognition I just thought it was a microchip,     Why do you think all my sentences  are joined up  I am a technophobe

[dik9]

There maybe microchips in chips in casino's outside the UK, but i can safely say that there are non in this country that are used in casino's. The gaming board just wouldn't allow it for a number of reasons. However there are measures to counteract fraud in some cash chips. Microchips not being one of them.

The reason chipping machines identify and sort chips out is due to what is called a "Magic Eye", which is a fast strobe that picks up on colours and assigns that colour to a programmed sleeve. Sometimes if the "Eye" is dirty it cannot read colour properly and so gives out dirty stacks.

Which brings me to a funny story, when a trainee asked how the machine sorts chips out before ever going onto a table. The manager told him it was voice activated. Amazed the trainee went onto the table and threw 2 stacks of blue chips down into the machine, and proceeded to shout "Blue Blue" down the hole It was not till he asked how it picks up different colours at the same time did he cotton on as we couldn't keep straight faces

The cost of chips depends on a number of factors, weight, size,material, patterned design, inserts, and basic customization, quantity and of course quality.