"Dusk till Dawn" Poker Club In Nottingham Diary (by Rob Yong)

[littlemissC]

there are singles also but 1 with 2 in it..i thought it was funny anyway.

I'll opt for the other one - if I want to chat with you I'll shout over the door!!   

lmho

[robyong]

Sometimes you don't want to look at the financials, cause you know they are goona ruin your day. Today was one of those days, to take a good honest view (and its soooooooooooooooooooo sik). Since the casinos seem to be convinced that they can get a further adjourment to the case (meaning financial consequences again), I have to give them credit for this and believe this is a real possibility, they are far more experienced that me in these matters.

In terms of another adjournment, my lawyers say "it just will not happen -  no chance", the Gambling Commission say "its possible", but I can just smell something and I don't like it. I'm a "the glass is half full - not empty" type of guy, so when I smell something nasty, its not paranania, its cause there is a problem and I "should" (haha) have some sort of back up plan to tackle it.

Any rational half decent (even average) businessmen in my position should be able to answer simple questions like

 - what of we get adjourned for another 6 months?

- what of we get declinced?

This makes me sit back in my chair and wonder why I do not have answers to any of these 2 questions. The only answer is that I am not a businessmen, I am a gambler, and so far, the risks I have taken in life, have gone my way. I remember how naive I was when I set sf group up, me and a fax machine (doubled up as a phone) and £5k. I had a really tight prudent business plan (keeping overheads small) but after 1 week, I had committed to £15k of advertising and marketing and taking on a secretary - the budget was out the window.

I can give 100's of examples of "crazy pays" over my business career, but this DTD one is different - I am not in control and thats why its biting me in the ass soooooooooooooooooooo bad.

My normal answer to "what if this happens etc" has always been "I'll just work harder" or "I won't let it happen", but with DTD, the destiny lies outside of my control and always has been, like being all-in pre flop with    v   , you should win all things being equal and fair, but you feel when the flop comes  down ....................its not looking so good anymore lol

I was so damn sure we would get this licence, I always have been. Lets face it, I did not spend all this money for a 50 : 50 shot, I don't mind flipping a coin for £100 after a few beers with a "halmless chubby bloke", but not for these stakes, I respect money, especially what it can do to help people, have I made a gross mis-calculation of risk here and will this be my first setback? I guess we find out in 9 weeks.......

Just a few musings and disjointed comments lol

Cheers Rob

[The_nun]

I just do not know what to say in a situation like this. To me the whole thing is a bloody farce, what with casino's springing up all over but they put you through this. It discusts me.

[robyong]

I just do not know what to say in a situation like this. To me the whole thing is a bloody farce, what with casino's springing up all over but they put you through this. It discusts me.

come to the court case and throw custard pies haha

but yes, its sooooooooooooooo awful, and when you see the financial consquences in black and white (eg. get a invoice of £90k every 3 months rent of an empty building) is a bad beat! Mind you, the rent is one of the smaller costs!

[The_nun]

There'd be more than custard in my pie.

[Pab]

. Lets face it, I did not spend all this money for a 50 : 50 shot, I don't mind flipping a coin for £100 after a few beers with a "halmless chubby bloke"

One of my favourite quotes on blonde, lol

All the best for 9 weeks time rob, will be a real blow to the growth of the Uk and european poker scene if it gets rejected.

[sledge13]

Yeah its a disgrace, just let DTD open!!!!

[booder]

The one thing that makes your posts so compelling is your honesty. If there is any justice in this world then you will get everything you deserve, keep positive.
The underdog sometimes defies all the odds against the "big boys".
I am sure Goliath thought David would be a pushover.

[CRIPPIN]

Do we know which party or parties are likely to be causing a further delay and if so do we know anybody inside those parties?

If it was possible to know the opponents weapons then defence strategy would be easier.

[Wardonkey]

What is your custard pie budget?

Or is it BYO?

[robyong]

. Lets face it, I did not spend all this money for a 50 : 50 shot, I don't mind flipping a coin for £100 after a few beers with a "halmless chubby bloke"

One of my favourite quotes on blonde, lol

All the best for 9 weeks time rob, will be a real blow to the growth of the Uk and european poker scene if it gets rejected.

Thanks Pab, and thank you for playing online on DTD and showing your suport for me, I won't forget it (as opposed to many of my other so called "poker friends" who say they want 0.1% more rakeback to play etc)

[robyong]

Do we know which party or parties are likely to be causing a further delay and if so do we know anybody inside those parties?

If it was possible to know the opponents weapons then defence strategy would be easier.

I have people who want to keep me informed and the feedback is the objectors are very confident of another adjournemnt (not of actually winning), just delaying until I go busto or give up lol

[CRIPPIN]

But do we know the grounds that they will seek the adjournment?

You have stated that you do not want to have casino tables in the club, this is an extract from the gambling commission information site:

Q. What powers will the Commission have?

It may impose conditions on the licences it grants, and it will issue codes of practice.

If you were to offer that a condition be imposed on your gaming license preventing roulette, blackjack etc., would this help your cause and negate any opposition from the casinos on the grounds of competition? Hopefully this is worth looking at.

[Pab]

. Lets face it, I did not spend all this money for a 50 : 50 shot, I don't mind flipping a coin for £100 after a few beers with a "halmless chubby bloke"

One of my favourite quotes on blonde, lol

All the best for 9 weeks time rob, will be a real blow to the growth of the Uk and european poker scene if it gets rejected.

Thanks Pab, and thank you for playing online on DTD and showing your suport for me, I won't forget it (as opposed to many of my other so called "poker friends" who say they want 0.1% more rakeback to play etc)

No problem just wish i wasnt running like horse sh1t then everyone will be happy, cant complain after how hard i owned the $10/20 games in april/may

[ripple11]

But do we know the grounds that they will seek the adjournment?

You have stated that you do not want to have casino tables in the club, this is an extract from the gambling commission information site:

Q. What powers will the Commission have?

It may impose conditions on the licences it grants, and it will issue codes of practice.

If you were to offer that a condition be imposed on your gaming license preventing roulette, blackjack etc., would this help your cause and negate any opposition from the casinos on the grounds of competition? Hopefully this is worth looking at.

Thats an interesting point.

Also I think you should stand up and tell the magistraites exactly the honest facts, as you tell us, (ie 90k invoices with no income!!), and that you're not a multi national company, and we've now come to a do or die situation .