The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[titaniumbean]

God forbid anyone in a position of power could know what sympathy or empathy was. 

[nirvana]

The three lies that Jeremy Corbyn told Andrew Neil last night, by Stephen Daisley:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/the-three-lies-that-jeremy-corbyn-told-andrew-neil/

Any piece that relies on a quote from Sean O’Callaghan to make a point is doomed to failure.

Even yesterday the vast majority of people you listed he had met with were elcted representatives. 

I have attended many events over the years in support of the Iris struggle for self determination, at many of those Corbyn has spoken and he has never shown any support for a military operation.  He always talked up peace and bringing the brits to the negotiating table. 

The IRA were no more terrorists than the British Government.

I don't see how folk can look at Britans foreign policy and think that it's been successful and don't see the corrolation between ongoing attacks in the middle east attacks on home soil. 

Maybe Corbyn doesn't have all the answers but I'm pretty sure he'd provide a more effective solution. 

It's realistic to view our foreign policy as unsuccessful and I'd really doubt many people n Britain think otherwise. I think it's legitimate to question interventions in Iraq, Libya and it would be if we ever attacked Iran. It's legitimate to challenge our support for the Saudis and other comparable regimes.

However, I don't really have any squeamishness about ongoing confrontations with the Taliban or with IS and, from all I've read, I don't think there is any correlation between our attacks on IS for example, and their attacks here.

[MintTrav]

The frustration of interviewing Michael Fallon.

[titaniumbean]

The frustration of interviewing Michael Fallon.

he is a colossal turd. the video is mind numbing and highlights so many of the failures of politics/politicians.

(If you haven't seen it - https://twitter.com/HichamYezza/status/868182862415228929)


Also of interest is Craig Murrays comments regarding May vs Corbyn to negotiate Brexit for us

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[PokerBroker]

The three lies that Jeremy Corbyn told Andrew Neil last night, by Stephen Daisley:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/the-three-lies-that-jeremy-corbyn-told-andrew-neil/

Any piece that relies on a quote from Sean O’Callaghan to make a point is doomed to failure.

Even yesterday the vast majority of people you listed he had met with were elcted representatives. 

I have attended many events over the years in support of the Iris struggle for self determination, at many of those Corbyn has spoken and he has never shown any support for a military operation.  He always talked up peace and bringing the brits to the negotiating table. 

The IRA were no more terrorists than the British Government.

I don't see how folk can look at Britans foreign policy and think that it's been successful and don't see the corrolation between ongoing attacks in the middle east attacks on home soil. 

Maybe Corbyn doesn't have all the answers but I'm pretty sure he'd provide a more effective solution. 

It's realistic to view our foreign policy as unsuccessful and I'd really doubt many people n Britain think otherwise. I think it's legitimate to question interventions in Iraq, Libya and it would be if we ever attacked Iran. It's legitimate to challenge our support for the Saudis and other comparable regimes.

However, I don't really have any squeamishness about ongoing confrontations with the Taliban or with IS and, from all I've read, I don't think there is any correlation between our attacks on IS for example, and their attacks here.

I am not squeamish about dealing with a terror threat either but I'd do it properly by cutting off the head.

[nirvana]

The three lies that Jeremy Corbyn told Andrew Neil last night, by Stephen Daisley:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/the-three-lies-that-jeremy-corbyn-told-andrew-neil/

Any piece that relies on a quote from Sean O’Callaghan to make a point is doomed to failure.

Even yesterday the vast majority of people you listed he had met with were elcted representatives. 

I have attended many events over the years in support of the Iris struggle for self determination, at many of those Corbyn has spoken and he has never shown any support for a military operation.  He always talked up peace and bringing the brits to the negotiating table. 

The IRA were no more terrorists than the British Government.

I don't see how folk can look at Britans foreign policy and think that it's been successful and don't see the corrolation between ongoing attacks in the middle east attacks on home soil. 

Maybe Corbyn doesn't have all the answers but I'm pretty sure he'd provide a more effective solution. 

It's realistic to view our foreign policy as unsuccessful and I'd really doubt many people n Britain think otherwise. I think it's legitimate to question interventions in Iraq, Libya and it would be if we ever attacked Iran. It's legitimate to challenge our support for the Saudis and other comparable regimes.

However, I don't really have any squeamishness about ongoing confrontations with the Taliban or with IS and, from all I've read, I don't think there is any correlation between our attacks on IS for example, and their attacks here.

I am not squeamish about dealing with a terror threat either but I'd do it properly by cutting off the head.

Sure, just for the record, I wasn't suggesting you were, just giving my talking head view

[TightEnd]

"This election is a clear choice between me and Jeremy Corbyn. Which is why I'm sending Amber Rudd to debate instead of me"

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[TightEnd]

2.2million watched Corbyn interview with neil on Friday...

2.9million watched May on Monday

via overnightstv

[TightEnd]

 Sir David Butler‏

Voters are more volatile: the proportion switching parties between elections rose from 15% in 1960s to 43% in 2015.

[TightEnd]

Interesting FT piece by Matt Singh explaining discrepancy in polls, it comes down to whether young voters turn out

https://www.ft.com/content/4ebc8f1e-43c0-11e7-8d27-59b4dd6296b8

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[TightEnd]

Have I misunderstood? Nicola Sturgeon says Tories are certain to win AND voting Lab risks letting the Tories in?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40078647

[TightEnd]

John McDonnell supporting rioting students “kicking the shit” out of London

https://reaction.life/john-mcdonnell-supporting-rioting-students-kicking-shit-london/

[Cf]

"This election is a clear choice between me and Jeremy Corbyn. Which is why I'm sending Amber Rudd to debate instead of me"

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Has Corbyn said he's going yet? I think he pretty much has to? Should be able to give Rudd a right kicking over the fact May is too cowardly to be there.

[TightEnd]

could be home secretary in ten days time

i genuinely think Labour would be several points higher in the polls if she was a back bencher. no?

[RickBFA]

could be home secretary in ten days time

i genuinely think Labour would be several points higher in the polls if she was a back bencher. no?

Same would hold true with John McDonnell. Always comes across as a nasty piece of work.

The British people aren't going to trust either of them.