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Title: SnG Bubble
Post by: UpTheMariners on July 16, 2007, 11:18:21 AM
FullTiltPoker Game #2962658332: $55 + $5 Sit & Go (Turbo) (22614007), Table 1 - 250/500 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:55:23 ET - 2007/07/16
Seat 2: Donkey_Hoti (2,795)
Seat 6: JohnyCashOut2 (4,930)
Seat 8: UpTheMariners (3,375)
Seat 9: queensukkout (2,400)
UpTheMariners posts the small blind of 250
queensukkout posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to UpTheMariners [5s Kc]
Donkey_Hoti folds
JohnyCashOut2 has 15 seconds left to act
JohnyCashOut2 folds

It's Your Turn!

Push or Fold?


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: action man on July 16, 2007, 11:50:00 AM
auto-push


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: temp0r on July 16, 2007, 12:05:02 PM
auto-push

yes.


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: UpTheMariners on July 16, 2007, 12:10:31 PM
ok  what about  7c 2d?


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: action man on July 16, 2007, 12:12:14 PM
if the player has been playing tight and trying to cash, then its up to you, no wrong play here, if he has been active then its a fold for me


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: AlexMartin on July 16, 2007, 03:05:16 PM
Im pushing for VALUE.


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: Longy on July 16, 2007, 03:44:07 PM
Shooooooooooooooovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.  I don't need to see my cards here to push this, hell i would probably push with 1 card.


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: AdamG on July 17, 2007, 03:17:01 PM
insta-shove!


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: KingPoker on July 17, 2007, 04:12:54 PM
I dunno, your second in chips and bullying the shortest stack, isnt that exzactly the opposite to sit'n'go strategy????

Its looks like a weak bet on your behalf aswell which means he has much bigger range to call with, if you lay this down makes you look tighter to the table coz u dont just push or call with any 2 cards, will give your next all in push more credit.

I lay this down!



Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: Jim-D on July 17, 2007, 04:50:33 PM
Can't lay this down here, He has to have a fairly big hand here to call off his tournament with, even if he knows ya pushing with any 2.


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: JungleCat03 on July 18, 2007, 06:56:27 AM
Crazy to fold here. It's very likely you have the best hand. When you don't have it, you can outdraw. Plus as it's the bubble, it's even possible you can make better hands pass!

Folding = burning money with these blinds


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: ifm on July 18, 2007, 08:58:46 AM
i raise another 1900


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: TheChipPrince on July 18, 2007, 09:07:09 AM

Personally I push with any 2... But what do the 'STT' calculators say?? (The STT Trainers on various sites) If you have 7 2 do they recommend the push??


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: boldie on July 18, 2007, 12:28:24 PM

Personally I push with any 2... But what do the 'STT' calculators say?? (The STT Trainers on various sites) If you have 7 2 do they recommend the push??

maybe not 72 as you really only have 6 outs..but 74 and 75 yeah that's a push aswell for me.


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: Smart Money on July 18, 2007, 12:44:12 PM
Worse cards than 72o are 32o (HU) and I'd push with those.

I'd actually raise to around 1900+ as ifm said. This looks stronger than a push, and it's harder for the BB to raise with junk/marginal hands for the last 500 or so (he won't just call) rather than call an all-in.


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: temp0r on July 18, 2007, 02:39:32 PM
I dunno, your second in chips and bullying the shortest stack, isnt that exzactly the opposite to sit'n'go strategy????

Its looks like a weak bet on your behalf aswell which means he has much bigger range to call with, if you lay this down makes you look tighter to the table coz u dont just push or call with any 2 cards, will give your next all in push more credit.

I lay this down!



is this A JOKE?!


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: UpTheMariners on July 18, 2007, 04:43:30 PM
i must be just running bad then, ive been pushing with pritty much any two all week (in similar situations), and been breaking even. i wondered whether i was making a bad play, despite calculators telling me to push.


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: temp0r on July 18, 2007, 06:52:04 PM
as long as you adjust their calling ranges to suit your table image and their looseness then you should be fine. i think that's the real skill in push fold strat.


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: Longy on July 18, 2007, 08:26:26 PM
i must be just running bad then, ive been pushing with pritty much any two all week (in similar situations), and been breaking even. i wondered whether i was making a bad play, despite calculators telling me to push.

If you are playing the higher stakes sng's on FTP, even if you are pretty good (this post originally makes me think otherwise as it is quite a standard push) you are going to experience massive varience. Be grateful to be break even, as you are doing better than most.

Sorry if this sounds harsh but its the truth.


Title: Re: SnG Bubble
Post by: UpTheMariners on July 19, 2007, 10:02:26 PM
i must be just running bad then, ive been pushing with pritty much any two all week (in similar situations), and been breaking even. i wondered whether i was making a bad play, despite calculators telling me to push.

If you are playing the higher stakes sng's on FTP, even if you are pretty good (this post originally makes me think otherwise as it is quite a standard push) you are going to experience massive varience. Be grateful to be break even, as you are doing better than most.

Sorry if this sounds harsh but its the truth.

i understand it was an easy push but ive been more concerned with the any hand push situation.