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« on: June 01, 2010, 05:22:55 PM »

Playing in a live cash game yesterday.
UTG limps
I limp utg+1.
6 way action to the flop.

flop is a102dd, checked to me and I bet 1/2 pot.

Action is on MP who is tanking. Button (who has cards) sais "Is that for your trips"

I tell him to STFU.

He goes on about how he is right and can say anything he wants. I say ok, £x side bet. We put it on ask the cardroom supervisor and he sais it's totally fine I don't have to answer him.

Ruling?
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 05:24:40 PM »

I didn't think it was against the rules but it's horrible etiquette which is why it doesn't happen often as most players know to stfu
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 05:29:42 PM »

think I'm missing something. active player asks another active player about his hand. what do we think is wrong here?
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 05:31:09 PM »

think I'm missing something. active player asks another active player about his hand. what do we think is wrong here?


6 way action. i bet utg+! guy direct left to me is tanking with 4 people behind and someone starts to talk about my hand then elects to fold. surely I could just say oh I think you're floating with back door diamonds and going to take it away on a high card turn/diamond turn then fold?
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2010, 05:44:04 PM »

I actually got a warning for something similar in Luton, three way pot and I was facing a bet on the river and I muttered something like 'you must have the X (cant remember the hand itself) and the player making the bet got the dealer to tell me off for talking about the hand with someone else left to act. I agreed with him at the time and it just slipped out, I would never have consciously said what I thought he had with others left to act.

So based on that I think I would have been telling him to STFU, well not really  because I'm a bit of a softy and dont like to make a fuss, but I think you are right Pleno.
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 05:46:03 PM »

think I'm missing something. active player asks another active player about his hand. what do we think is wrong here?

wow gatso didn't expect such a silly question from you.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 06:00:33 PM »

think I'm missing something. active player asks another active player about his hand. what do we think is wrong here?


6 way action. i bet utg+! guy direct left to me is tanking with 4 people behind and someone starts to talk about my hand then elects to fold. surely I could just say oh I think you're floating with back door diamonds and going to take it away on a high card turn/diamond turn then fold?

I have no idea what the second part of that means but I do now realise that the player was talking about your hand. I initially thought you meant he was talking about the tanking player's hand

still can't see how you felt it was against the rules though. def bad etiquette though as cos says
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 06:45:11 PM »

I recall reading in poker player magazine a theoretical question where a guy is constantly reraising big on the flop  after a few hands of this a player who has folded says something like "cmon guys he cant have it all the time!!!"

the answer to the problem was that the player who spoke up was officially warned

ok i admit its not exactly the same situation but its similar
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2010, 06:46:21 PM »

Hope you told him you can't have trips on that board.
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2010, 06:53:12 PM »

I recall reading in poker player magazine a theoretical question where a guy is constantly reraising big on the flop  after a few hands of this a player who has folded says something like "cmon guys he cant have it all the time!!!"

the answer to the problem was that the player who spoke up was officially warned

ok i admit its not exactly the same situation but its similar

that couldn't be much more different tbh. it's a clear cut ruling when an inactive player does it
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2010, 07:00:13 PM »

Hope you told him you can't have trips on that board.

sure cant
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 07:04:39 PM »

Hope you told him you can't have trips on that board.

Lol, there is not a single flop where this statement applies
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2010, 07:06:37 PM »

Hope you told him you can't have trips on that board.

Lol, there is not a single flop where this statement applies

I think Kin is going to use the silly argument that trips is different to a set
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2010, 07:11:07 PM »

Hope you told him you can't have trips on that board.

Lol, there is not a single flop where this statement applies

I think Kin is going to use the silly argument that trips is different to a set

Yes, that was my silly point.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2010, 07:15:04 PM »

Heard a similar ruling at the Vic in a cash game this week

Ruling was speech play and moodies are allowed, any player in the hand can say anything at any point regardless of the action, even to influence it.
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