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Title: A hand from the £30 Birmingham Gala FO tonight
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 07, 2006, 12:29:07 AM
Ok I have about 3700 in chips (4000 starting stack) blinds are 50/100 and I'm in the BB. There are a couple of early limpers, and then a min-raise to 200 from two off the button, followed by a raise to 400 from the SB. I look down and find  Qc Qd and re-raise to 1100. It's folded around to the original raiser who dwells for about 30 seconds then folds. The small blind pauses for a second before moving all-in. (He has me covered). SB has limped into a few hands but has not raised a single pot in the 45 minutes or so that we've played. Would you have raised less/more, played the preflop any different? Do you call?


Title: Re: A hand from the £30 Birmingham Gala FO tonight
Post by: clayftknight on April 07, 2006, 11:07:15 AM
He is most likely to make that play with JJ or AK.

If he has QQ, it matters not, if he has KK or AA maybe he plays it slower than that maybe not, but if he has JJ or AK his play makes sense, so you are likely to be ahead..........call


Title: Re: A hand from the £30 Birmingham Gala FO tonight
Post by: TightEnd on April 07, 2006, 12:43:34 PM
I call too...you may be on the resteal as far as he is concerned

I think AK is the likeliest followed by JJ/10s/9s


Title: Re: A hand from the £30 Birmingham Gala FO tonight
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 07, 2006, 03:43:22 PM
I thought about it for a good couple of minutes. I didn't think he knew that much about pot odds, (he'd earlier limped UTG with A7off vs a raise from the SB, and beaten the SB's AK for a decent pot), but I thought he'd have raised more with AK or JJ to protect his hand. Why such a small raise? It didn't make much sense, and re-raising all-in with with one of those two hands just didn't seem likely to me for a guy who hadn't raised a single hand before and was playing as though he was trying not to lose chips and wasn't a real gambler. My own image was also tight, this was the first hand I'd raised with but I just had a real gut feeling he had aces or kings, I can't explain it, but my gut feeling is usually right most of the time. Finally I folded my queens face-up, and said something like, "I might get slated for this, but I think I'm behind." He let out a deep sigh and showed the aces saying, "I don't know how you got a read on me."

Phew!

In hindsight, I think his re-raise is really bad here, if I don't have such a strong hand, the limpers and the early raiser will call and then he's in all sorts of trouble. He's lucky I pushed everyone else out of the pot. If he had made a big raise to around 1000 then I'm really stuck on what to do.


Title: Re: A hand from the £30 Birmingham Gala FO tonight
Post by: Bongo on April 07, 2006, 03:48:24 PM
I also think he made a mistake reraising your raise.

He should call and let you hang yourself on the flop.

Nice pass though.


Title: Re: A hand from the £30 Birmingham Gala FO tonight
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 07, 2006, 03:56:26 PM
I also think he made a mistake reraising your raise.

He should call and let you hang yourself on the flop.

Nice pass though.

I'd agree, he said at the time he thought I was pot-commited, but I still had 2600 left with 15 minutes at the 50/100 level and felt I could play my way back. I did actually see an extraordinary first hand on my table involving two of the guys who made the final table with me a couple of weeks ago.

EP raises it to 250 (Blinds 25/50, Starting stack 4000), LP re-raises it to 850. EP calls.

Flop comes  Td 6h 6h Check Check

Turn  Qs Check Check

River  Tc EP bets 500, LP raises to 1500. EP calls.

EP has  Ks Kc LP has  Th Ts!!!

Terrible play by EP I thought.


Title: Re: A hand from the £30 Birmingham Gala FO tonight
Post by: TightEnd on April 07, 2006, 04:11:26 PM
nice pass!


very strange by the AA to potentially price you all in with such a small iniital raise


Title: Re: A hand from the £30 Birmingham Gala FO tonight
Post by: clayftknight on April 07, 2006, 04:51:19 PM
trusting your gut is not crazy at all.

Those 'gut feelings' are built up by all your experiences of all the hands or opponets you've ever played that were in any way simaler to the hand in question.............in other words, you subconsious has already done the calculations for you, this is why it is often right and you don't know why, and this is also why expressions like "think long, think wrong" have an element of truth in them.


Title: Re: A hand from the £30 Birmingham Gala FO tonight
Post by: Royal Flush on April 07, 2006, 09:09:01 PM
I call


Title: Re: A hand from the £30 Birmingham Gala FO tonight
Post by: bundle on April 07, 2006, 09:18:46 PM
I call

LMAO…. well there a shock!