DTD £500 Deepstack £200,000 Gtd: Day2 and final

[cambridgealex]

the 3 25k chips is not nice i agree

Yeah. I can't stand sharp practice like that. It's plain cheating.

Did he actually hide them tho?

They weren't hidden, they were at the front of his stack. Ali just didnt notice (they aren't very clear tbh) and John said he thought he hadnt spotted them. No issue... Ali should have made sure I guess.

Apologies if the way I wrote it sounded like they were at the back behind his big ones, confirmed at the front under the purples
difficult to spot, I often have difficulties spotting them if under purples

in which case they shoud be on top of his stack clearly visible

like todd says pretty sure ali had 2 cards and thought "hooray its go time"

but thats not the point.

They DON'T have to be on top of the stack, at the bottom and visible is fine.

[outragous76]

the 3 25k chips is not nice i agree

Yeah. I can't stand sharp practice like that. It's plain cheating.

Did he actually hide them tho?

They weren't hidden, they were at the front of his stack. Ali just didnt notice (they aren't very clear tbh) and John said he thought he hadnt spotted them. No issue... Ali should have made sure I guess.

Apologies if the way I wrote it sounded like they were at the back behind his big ones, confirmed at the front under the purples
difficult to spot, I often have difficulties spotting them if under purples

in which case they shoud be on top of his stack clearly visible

like todd says pretty sure ali had 2 cards and thought "hooray its go time"

but thats not the point.

They DON'T have to be on top of the stack, at the bottom and visible is fine.

If they aren't clearly visible I disagree. Why create an issue, get them out front

[TightEnd]

Up to date on the chip leader

Andrew Hulme 1,300,000 and a cheeky smile

[pleno1]

gowannnnn stato

[RobbieBottle]

the 3 25k chips is not nice i agree

Yeah. I can't stand sharp practice like that. It's plain cheating.

Did he actually hide them tho?

They weren't hidden, they were at the front of his stack. Ali just didnt notice (they aren't very clear tbh) and John said he thought he hadnt spotted them. No issue... Ali should have made sure I guess.

Apologies if the way I wrote it sounded like they were at the back behind his big ones, confirmed at the front under the purples
difficult to spot, I often have difficulties spotting them if under purples

in which case they shoud be on top of his stack clearly visible

like todd says pretty sure ali had 2 cards and thought "hooray its go time"

but thats not the point.

They DON'T have to be on top of the stack, at the bottom and visible is fine.

If they aren't clearly visible I disagree. Why create an issue, get them out front

Players "always" store their highest value chips at the bottom of the second highest value chips at the front of their stack...... Don't really see an issue here

[RED-DOG]

the 3 25k chips is not nice i agree

Yeah. I can't stand sharp practice like that. It's plain cheating.

Did he actually hide them tho?

They weren't hidden, they were at the front of his stack. Ali just didnt notice (they aren't very clear tbh) and John said he thought he hadnt spotted them. No issue... Ali should have made sure I guess.

Apologies if the way I wrote it sounded like they were at the back behind his big ones, confirmed at the front under the purples
difficult to spot, I often have difficulties spotting them if under purples

in which case they shoud be on top of his stack clearly visible

like todd says pretty sure ali had 2 cards and thought "hooray its go time"

but thats not the point.

They DON'T have to be on top of the stack, at the bottom and visible is fine.

If they aren't clearly visible I disagree. Why create an issue, get them out front

In my very humble opinion. If you are going to accuse someone of sharp practice or cast doubt on a persons integrity, you need to be absolutely certain his intentions were dishonourable.

[TightEnd]

Break chip counts (exact rounded to the nearest 20,000)

11    1    Mitchell Johnson 500,000
11    2    Peter Meldrum 320,000
11    3    Philip Campbell 300,000
11    4    Anonymous 220,000
11    6    Syed Zaidi 150,000
11    7    Andrew Papageorgiou 300,000
11    8    Carlo Citrone 350,000
11    9    Guy Barron 650,000

12    1    John Black 620,000
12    4    Ryunosuke Mason-brown 220,000
12    5    Asif Raja 900,000
12    6    Jehan Zaib 500,000
12    7    David Dean 320,000
12    8    Rupinder Bedi 90,000
12    9    Meli Vincent 850,000

13    1    Eirimas Livonas 320,000
13    3    John Sadler 200,000
13    4    Andy Coughlan 400,000
13    5    Andrew Hulme 1,300,000
13    6    Gordon Woodings 200,000
13    7    Callum Smith 800,000
13    9    Martin Hogarty 300,000

14    2    Tan Luan Le 400,000
14    3    Paul Wilson 150,000
14    4    Jonathan Kalmar 200,000
14    6    Colburn Tomlin 600,000
14    7    Peter Wilkerson 400,000
14    8    David Newman 400,000
14    9    Ian Bosley 400,000

[brookie]

the 3 25k chips is not nice i agree

Yeah. I can't stand sharp practice like that. It's plain cheating.


that what i do

Did he actually hide them tho?

They weren't hidden, they were at the front of his stack. Ali just didnt notice (they aren't very clear tbh) and John said he thought he hadnt spotted them. No issue... Ali should have made sure I guess.

Apologies if the way I wrote it sounded like they were at the back behind his big ones, confirmed at the front under the purples
difficult to spot, I often have difficulties spotting them if under purples

in which case they shoud be on top of his stack clearly visible

like todd says pretty sure ali had 2 cards and thought "hooray its go time"

but thats not the point.

They DON'T have to be on top of the stack, at the bottom and visible is fine.

If they aren't clearly visible I disagree. Why create an issue, get them out front

Players "always" store their highest value chips at the bottom of the second highest value chips at the front of their stack...... Don't really see an issue here

[Pugwashed]

the 3 25k chips is not nice i agree

Yeah. I can't stand sharp practice like that. It's plain cheating.

Did he actually hide them tho?

They weren't hidden, they were at the front of his stack. Ali just didnt notice (they aren't very clear tbh) and John said he thought he hadnt spotted them. No issue... Ali should have made sure I guess.

Apologies if the way I wrote it sounded like they were at the back behind his big ones, confirmed at the front under the purples
difficult to spot, I often have difficulties spotting them if under purples

in which case they shoud be on top of his stack clearly visible

like todd says pretty sure ali had 2 cards and thought "hooray its go time"

but thats not the point.

Seems pretty harsh. As long as they're visible and at the front of his stack that's all it takes. The other player has a responsibility to himself to double check someone stack size if there is any doubt. From my experience of playing with / talking to John I can't imagine him trying to angle anyone like that

[Girgy85]

the 3 25k chips is not nice i agree

Yeah. I can't stand sharp practice like that. It's plain cheating.


that what i do

Did he actually hide them tho?

They weren't hidden, they were at the front of his stack. Ali just didnt notice (they aren't very clear tbh) and John said he thought he hadnt spotted them. No issue... Ali should have made sure I guess.

Apologies if the way I wrote it sounded like they were at the back behind his big ones, confirmed at the front under the purples
difficult to spot, I often have difficulties spotting them if under purples

in which case they shoud be on top of his stack clearly visible

like todd says pretty sure ali had 2 cards and thought "hooray its go time"

but thats not the point.

They DON'T have to be on top of the stack, at the bottom and visible is fine.

If they aren't clearly visible I disagree. Why create an issue, get them out front

Players "always" store their highest value chips at the bottom of the second highest value chips at the front of their stack...... Don't really see an issue here

This

[brookie]

i also put the big chips at the bottom of the 5k chips when playing at dtd or any where else i play

great updates m8ty

[mondatoo]

Doesn't really sound like he did anything wrong. At first it sounded pretty bad though and it's something any updater should be really clear/certain about.

[outragous76]

Hmmmm ok!

Fwiw I wasn't casting doubt on his character re shooting an angle, but I know where my chips would have been.

I disagree that players "always" have them at the bottom. Can't think of a single instance where that is the case!

For him to say to Ali he knew Ali didn't know, suggests at worst he didn't want him to know, at best it was a shit rub down!

Simple fact is if this was adebeyo or whatever the blokes name is there would be a very different tone. That's all

Oh and my single 25k chip will be firmly at the bottom of my stack fom now on especially if I'm in seat 1 or 9. I'll let the td make the decision and won't use my own best judgment as to whether it might be clear to all

[TightEnd]

Lets draw a line under it please

Crack on with the updates

[RobbieBottle]

Lets draw a line under it please

Crack on with the updates

Here here!!!!