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Which one and why?

I love the convinience and choice online but the atmosphere live is brilliant.  The slower speed live is better for learning too although online you can pull up hand histories and study.

Difficult to choose.  Bit like "Shall I take the Porsche or the Ferrari today?"  Both great at the same thing but totally different way of doing it.

if i lived near a casino i would prefer playing live, but the internet cuts down on the expenses involved in travelling and you can get a game 24/7.
and although i do travel to a lot of festivals and tourny's, it is in my capacity as a proffessional railbird lol.... my bankroll doesnt allow me to play big comps, but my ability is there ;)

B&M Love the banter at a table, better structure and sometimes the buffet is better than the leftovers in the fridge.

Also easier to see what the others are up to, harder to read others online.

Is it just me who thinks you more often than not get a better structure online?

For me online is the bread and butter. Three times as many hands per hour on each table. Nine times as many hands if 3-tabling.

As for the difference in blind structure, I'm sure that the strucures are better online when you consider you are being dealt 60-70 hands per hour (on Pokerstars), compared to live where you can expect to see 20-25 per hour. So a 15 minute blind level online is equivalent to a 45 minute blind level live in terms of number of hands seen per level.

If I was a recreational player then yes live can be more fun for sure. But in terms of making money, online wins hands down.

I've just analysed where my earnings have come from in the last year, if anyone wants a read there should be a link to my blog in my profile. I hope this doesn't count as spamming  ???

Live all the way. there are so many more facets to the live game you don't get online but far less so the other way round.

Such as what Adam?

Apart from physical tells, you must be referring to things such as the stench emanating from the person sat next to you, the player who repeatedly exposes his hole cards when folding, the misdeals and scream-ups?

Hands per hour and the ability to multi-table, and not having to sit around a table with any unsavoury characters, plus the earn factor, makes online far superior, for me at least.

Rob, are you the guy i met at Dublin airport and again in blackpool ?  with the very attractive oriental girlfriend ?

Unfortunately not Kev, I've never been to Dublin  :'(.

Though I did have an oriental girfriend for a while, so now i'm confused  ???

you definitely have a point about the smells and the screaming but it's more than just physical tells. it's getting a feel for peoples styles and personalities, getting to act and to deceive. getting to blend into the backgroud or take over the table much more than online. getting to look into someones eyes when you're sure they're passing a better hand and knowing you have a player beat in hands not yet dealt. gathering for a final table and getting to physically check out your opponents.

Live play for me personally is a far greater experience and something I strive to be very good at. Live I hurt when I loose but am high when I win. Online I dislike the experience win or loose (although obviously less so if I wn big)

not same chap then,    the guy i was chatting to had played the EPT event in dublin, and as we were in the departure lounge who should be on the same plane ...... Jeremy Beadle, who was sitting quietly minding his own business when a group of about 6 Irish lads walked past and spotted him... one of them says " oh look theres jeremy beadle" to which one of the other lads pipes up..."Jeremy you stumpy fingered f***er, How the f*** are ya" Mr. Beadle ( much to his credit) remained composed and waved to the lads, said hello and carried on as if nothing had happened.

Myself and the guy i was chatting to spent the next 10 minutes trying to supress fits of giggles.

Perhaps its one of those stories where you had to be there :-\

In SNG on stars I keep getting Jeremy Beadle hands, a big one and a little one

My fav is " Ive got a worse hand than captain Hook" lol

Or, one hand less than an arab shoplifter

or "worse hands than a Scottish goalkeeper" ;)

FU

do you mean marco fu the snooker player ?

Online is the mortgage payment :)  but B&M I prefer, although certain things are better for online

1   Tournament structures online can be miles better than b&m   (take for instance gutshot chips & fast blinds)
2   Online is 24/7/365 so no prob finding a omaha hi/lo cash game
3   Easy just to nip upstairs and play and not have to drive 30miles to nearest cardroom
4   More hands per hour online
5   Smacking the mouse when you lose to an 80/20 

B&M  miles better for tells, gossip, blind straddles, catching up with friends and relaxing

But both good in my opinion :)

Agree

poor mouse why dont you just throw the cat out the window like the rest of us

hey reddog how did u do on pokerstars, you were chip leader when i looked the other day

made final, then ran my flopped K flush into a river A flush

ouch not good ul reddog


Ironside can't throw cat outta window, cos havent got a cat, although I could borrow next doors cat but its just too sweet :)

Rob S, are you Rob Sherwood? If so, enjoy your blog.

Hope we see you at Luton again soon. Promise to have showered first!

Not much to add to the debate really...prefer live, particularly big events/festivals for the challenge aspect. Online for me funds the buy ins to those biggies.

Yeah online pays the bills to be fair and if you looking purely from a poker perspective it wins hands down. Live is far more entertaining and social experience which i thoroughly enjoy. A mixture of the both keeps me happy

I still see online as 'poker simulation' maybe thats part of my problem with it. I know you're playing for real money but it's still a simulation.

I echo this.

I think players sometimes forget that hands are played a much quicker rate, yet the clocks are roughly the same as your average b & m game.

That has to be the oddest thing you've said on this site RED.

funny though - hehe  :D

From reading some of the comments, it seems that while people appreciate the convenience and efficiency of online play, they find live play a much more fun and enjoyable experience.

I am the same. I don't think you can really appreciate the joy of the game until you have played live. Personally, I often opt for live because of the buzz and the potential adrenalin rush of raking in a huge pot or bluffing with rags. Maybe it's an ego thing, but this is the part of poker I love.

Online definitely wins it.

1. No second hand smoke
2. No smelly/gobby table mates. (You can turn off chat).
3. Multi tabling, very little waiting. You can play different games at same time, PLO PLO8 LO8 etc SNGs.
4. If you decide to play for 5 minutes or 5 days its always there for you. Live is limited to certain days and often bad times (ie 9.15 starts 4.30am ends!).

I love online but disconnects drive me insane.  It's so infuriating and difficult to pin down.  ISP, Card room, software, hardware????  Who knows?  Ahhhhgggg. 

Spent all day once trying to sort a serious run of disconnects during MTT's.  ISP said no probs their end.  Will Hill were top notch.  Talked me through possible anti virus and firewall conflicts/checks etc.  After no joy suggested uninstall and reinstall their software.  Still no joy.  Checked and replaced modem/phone cables.  Scratched head.  Swore.  Got thrown off another MTT.  Swore some more.  20 mins later got connection and had lost half my stack in blinds.  Rebuilt stack.  Disconnected.  Ahhhhggggggg!

Gave up for day before I destroyed the computer.  Wife, who notice my slight annoyance,  phoned ISP next morning and c/s agent says  "Ahh, yes, we've been having server problems for a couple of days now." 

So to the original, could'nt be bothered,  ISP c/s agent...I hope you play online poker and inherit the luck of the entire passenger list of the Titanic.

Can't think of the live equivalent.  Faulty fire alarm tripping mid tourney perhaps.  How often does that happen?

Wasnt there a power cut at a brighton tourney once and they ended up having to chop it something like 26 ways???

I guess that is about as close as it gets!

Happened to me once at the Gala, about 2.30 am so we down to 3 tables. Interesting watching the staff trying to convince the hardened gamblers to get the eff out of the place!

were u there, Simon, when the fire alarm went off during a comp?

I do believe I said that...why?

It's a different occasion to the one you mentioned above.

The whole casino, staff included, had to wait outside. I could sense some hardcore gamblers getting edgy. (proabaly considering going down the other gala rather than waiting  :P).

My table was at the end of a hand, so no trouble insued. However, I remember someone saying he had aces on another table as the alarm went off. I think it ended up as a misdeal. Now that is unlucky.

My heart kinda hopes someone signalled a mate to set it off in the middle of a losing showdown. Now there's an idea. I think the casino would cotton on after a while though.  :-X

It was some time ago. (Well early 2004 feels an age ago!). i think I remember ours was the chef burning something. (No change there). :D

I remember that. It was a good few years ago before they redesigned the casino.

200 or so people and casino staff thronging around on the pavement untill we got the all-clear to resume.

I was there on a friday once when it happened.
I had pocket 7's and the alarm went off just as the dealer flopped me middle set. - the card room boss shouted everyone out but i persuaded the dealer to deal the turn and river as it was the first hand and there was the usual multi- all in.  This quadrupled me up for the return about an hour later. - the funny thing is i had to rebuy 6 hands later!  :)