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Title: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Sark79 on May 12, 2006, 12:59:45 AM
I was wondering , is there a rule which says Hatton had to give up his other belt to fight at a higher weight?

Can you hold belts at more than one weight?

Isn't he taking a big gamble doing this.  If he doesn't win ( I hope he does win )  he will be left with nothing.


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Nem on May 12, 2006, 01:02:49 AM
The WBA Welterweight belt is up for grabs on Saturday.

When PBF walks into the ring he has about 5 different green belts


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: lvlarc_uk on May 12, 2006, 01:05:27 AM
I think rule is if you move up a weight to fight for another belt, you have to drop the current belt within 7 days. He has dropped the IBF, WBA belts at 140 and is now supposed to be fighting for the WBA at 147. Howver that still may not be sanctioned as his mandatory Urkal has made a case against him with Hattons ex promoter Warren. (SOUR GRAPES)

His fight against Collazo will probably be for the title, but Collazo is a paper champ anyway, so belt or no belt he just wants to win and make a name in USA.


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Nem on May 12, 2006, 01:06:37 AM
What do you mean by "Paper Champ"?


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Sark79 on May 12, 2006, 01:14:41 AM

When PBF walks into the ring he has about 5 different green belts


ok you have got me.  Who is PBF?   Isn't that the Pakistan Boxing Federation


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: lvlarc_uk on May 12, 2006, 01:15:04 AM
I mean he's not recognised as a legit champ at 147 its more of a trinket belt, he won the belt from a controversial decision over Rivera. The belt is purely used as a bargaining chip for the purses as when the casual fan hears "champ" they pay more attention to the fight, and more PPVs sold etc. The real champ at 147 should be the winner of Baldomir/Gatti as Baldo won the main 3 the belts from Undisputed Judah, but couldn't afford the sanctioning fees so they let Judah keep them to fight PBF with. Bit of a farce.

However Gatti got destroyed against Floyd Mayweather so when he does win the linear belt from Baldo, (and he should) people will still think Mayweather is champ as he beat Judah and Gatti. Then theres Margarito who holds another belt who Floyd recently turned down a bout with for $8mill as he'd rather wait and fight Oscar.

Bit confusing I know  :D


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: lvlarc_uk on May 12, 2006, 01:16:16 AM

When PBF walks into the ring he has about 5 different green belts


ok you have got me.  Who is PBF?   Isn't that the Pakistan Boxing Federation

lol PBF is the world recognised best boxer pound for pound. It's his nick, Pretty Boy Floyd. (Floyd Mayweather Jr)

But I think Manny Pacquiao is real P4P king ;)


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Nem on May 12, 2006, 01:16:53 AM
I hate Boxing politics!

PBF= Pretty Boy Floyd


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Nem on May 12, 2006, 01:17:57 AM
Why did PBF refuse 8mill? Surely that is the biggest purse for a Welterweight bout.

What is the biggest Boxing purse of all time?


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Sark79 on May 12, 2006, 01:19:47 AM
ty


probably a Tyson fight


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Sark79 on May 12, 2006, 01:23:54 AM
Yea Pacquiao knocked out Erik Morales. Barrera didn't manage that.  My Sister sat next to Jim Watt on the return flight from the States after that fight. She said he talked about boxing the whole way home  :D


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: lvlarc_uk on May 12, 2006, 01:24:31 AM
Why did PBF refuse 8mill? Surely that most be the biggest purse for a Welterweight bout.

What is the biggest Boxing purse of all time?

Not sure about purses, but Oscar De La Hoya is the biggest PPV seller of all time. I think he got over $20 mill to fight Hopkins, may get more against Floyd. Oscar brings the money to table, Floyd will get less than Oscar.

Here is list from boxrec of top 7 Boxing PPV's sold.


1. Tyson-Holyfield II 1,990,000 buys
2. Tyson-Lewis 1,800,000 buys
3. Oscar De La Hoya v Felix Trinidad 1,400,000 buys
4. Oscar De La Hoya v Bernard Hopkins 1,000,000 buys
5. Oscar De La Hoya v Shane Mosley II 950,000 buys
6. Oscar De La Hoya v Fernando Vargas 935,000 buys
7. Oscar De La Hoya v Ricardo Mayorga 875,000 buys


You see Oscar is minted!!  :D


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Nem on May 12, 2006, 01:25:54 AM
DLH would get owned by PBF


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Nem on May 12, 2006, 01:27:38 AM
I remember when I was younger about Tyson vs Spinks was for or was going to be for  $100,000,000.


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Sark79 on May 12, 2006, 01:30:28 AM
What was the first fight you watched?     I remember Tyson against Buster Douglas on ScreenSport ( old satallite channel ) .  I was about 8 or 9 .


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Nem on May 12, 2006, 01:33:33 AM
What was the first fight you watched?     I remember Tyson against Buster Douglas on ScreenSport ( old satallite channel ) .  I was about 8 or 9 .

The first fight I watched was Tyson Vs Berbick. I was 7.


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: lvlarc_uk on May 12, 2006, 01:35:29 AM
First fight I remember was Naz-Robinson, I was only about 8 too  :D Only been a big fan for last few years. Want to goto Vegas and watch a biggie for my 21st :D


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Nem on May 12, 2006, 01:38:52 AM
I got into Boxing when I was young, because my best friend when I was a kid was Peter Haymer (http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=023924)


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: ifm on May 12, 2006, 01:39:41 AM
A couple of pals of mine flew out to Boston today for the fight, they got a £5k package for £2k on Ibuy!!
Got the full works, limo's, best seats etc. guests of Hattons oppo.
I'm gutted.


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Sark79 on May 12, 2006, 01:40:44 AM
That was a great fight Naz v's Robinson. 











I thought you were older Nemesis   ;hide;


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: lvlarc_uk on May 12, 2006, 01:48:40 AM
A couple of pals of mine flew out to Boston today for the fight, they got a £5k package for £2k on Ibuy!!
Got the full works, limo's, best seats etc. guests of Hattons oppo.
I'm gutted.

That sounds great, my father has always wanted to goto Vegas for his 50th, but missed it last year. So hopefully in 2 years time we get to go for my 21st. Would be amazing going to PBF-Hatton but I bet ticket prices will cost a fortune.

Make sure you post their photos on here ;)


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: GlasgowBandit on May 12, 2006, 01:03:29 PM
First proper fight I remembers eeing was when McGuigan won his title, I reckon I must have been about 6 or 7 at the time.

I also remember being huddles aroune the wirless in my grannies house one night listening to BBC radio when Bruno was getting the sh!t kicked out him by Tyson.


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Nem on May 12, 2006, 01:07:48 PM
I also remember being huddles aroune the wirless in my grannies house one night listening to BBC radio when Bruno was getting the sh!t kicked out him by Tyson.

 :D

Tim Witherspoon too.


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: The Baron on May 12, 2006, 01:14:15 PM
De La Hoya is the PPV King for one reason. The hispanic population. It's huge and loves boxing.

Sorry but Pacquiao has had a handful of good fights and is not in the Barerra/Morales mould.

PBF is the best P4P, love to see Ricky fight him.


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Nem on May 12, 2006, 01:23:07 PM
DLH is a 6 weight world champion.

The guy has GEARS!


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 12, 2006, 03:00:18 PM
First I remember was my old man letting me stay up to watch Marvellous Marvin Hagler fight in the US. When we moved back over he put most of his money on Hagler to beat Minter.... my Mum never knew how much ;) - but he always weighed us in when he had a win, so she was happy.

BTW will Hatton have his tame ref when he fights?


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: lvlarc_uk on May 12, 2006, 06:13:53 PM
De La Hoya is the PPV King for one reason. The hispanic population. It's huge and loves boxing.

Sorry but Pacquiao has had a handful of good fights and is not in the Barerra/Morales mould.

PBF is the best P4P, love to see Ricky fight him.

Ring champion for 2 years. His first loss was from a technical ko via a lowblow, second loss he couldn't make the weight.

He's beat Ledwaba, Sanchez, Battery, Vaquez, knocked Marquez down 3 times in 1st round, first man to KO  Morales, and embarrased Barrera. Paquiao is a 4 weight champion. On top of that he's now fighting Larios, and has called out Marzuez & John, this guy doesn't take many easy fights.

He is definetly in the Barrera/Morales mould, and he has achieved more, most boxing experts i.e Bert Sugar has said Pacman is one of the best featherweights of all time.


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Karabiner on May 12, 2006, 07:13:42 PM
Why did PBF refuse 8mill? Surely that most be the biggest purse for a Welterweight bout.

What is the biggest Boxing purse of all time?

Not sure about purses, but Oscar De La Hoya is the biggest PPV seller of all time. I think he got over $20 mill to fight Hopkins, may get more against Floyd. Oscar brings the money to table, Floyd will get less than Oscar.

Here is list from boxrec of top 7 Boxing PPV's sold.


1. Tyson-Holyfield II 1,990,000 buys
2. Tyson-Lewis 1,800,000 buys
3. Oscar De La Hoya v Felix Trinidad 1,400,000 buys
4. Oscar De La Hoya v Bernard Hopkins 1,000,000 buys
5. Oscar De La Hoya v Shane Mosley II 950,000 buys
6. Oscar De La Hoya v Fernando Vargas 935,000 buys
7. Oscar De La Hoya v Ricardo Mayorga 875,000 buys


You see Oscar is minted!!  :D

I guess that the top one is where Tyson bit off Holyfield's ear.

That was the last PPV fight that I watched, stayed up until 5am and paid £15 for that load of bollox.

I felt like I had been conned and swore that I would never pay again.

I wonder how many others felt  like me and did the same ?


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Nem on May 12, 2006, 07:15:37 PM
Bert Sugar has said Pacman is one of the best featherweights of all time.

Better than Chavez?


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: Sark79 on May 12, 2006, 07:19:29 PM
There goes Naz' chance of a comeback.  15 months


Title: Re: Ricky Hatton
Post by: lvlarc_uk on May 12, 2006, 07:25:18 PM
Bert Sugar has said Pacman is one of the best featherweights of all time.

Better than Chavez?

Chavez never had 1 credible fight at Feather, his career kicked off at Super Feather, prime was at LightWelter.

I'm talking about best at Feather Weight, along with Willie Pep, Salvador Sanchez, Azumah Nelson, Sandy Saddler, Wilfredo Gomez. Manny would of gave everyone of those 1 hell of a fight.