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I am final judge and arbiter of who gets in the final team, cos I started the thread!


Anyway, they have to have been capped by England, at the end of the day I will announce the chosen team


I nominate Nemesis as my vice captain in the choosing panel



I'll start with an automatic choice



Carlton Palmer (lets face it quite a few of these will be from the Graham Taylor era)


One of the sweaties can do the all time worst Scots XI....

Andy Sinton.

Again one from the Turnip era.

FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION:

Gary Ablett
Earl Barrett
Warren Barton
Lee Chapman
Nigel Clough
Owen Hargreaves
Neil Ruddock
Geoff Thomas
David Unsworth

Nigel Winterburn & Michael Ricketts

Chris Powell would be one of my first names on this teamsheet.

Nemesis I'm starting to worry about your judgement.
 
Winterburn was an excellent player and unfortunate not to win more caps.

I would rather have Powell than Winterburn any day of the week. Winterburn was simply poo.

His record of a decade as first choice Arsenal left back in arguably the finest back four who ever played together, winning three league titles, two FA Cups,(including the domestic league and cup double in 1998) One League Cup, and one european Cup-Winner's Cup would throw some doubt on your claim Nemesis. If Stuart Pearce had not been the regular Enland left full back Winterburn would have won many more caps.

I'm with Ralph on this, Winterburn is nowhere near this team



Give me Dorigo at left back


 

winterburn worse player - are you having a laugh???????

my nomination would be Keith Curle.....

Keith Curle is a great choice



Tony Daley?

Philip Neville, just on principle



a goalkeeper? Beasant? James? who else?

Ian Walker must be in the frame for the keeper's jersey.

Loved Dorigo, he had a great 1990 world cup.
Geoff Thomas if only for his shot hitting the corner flag v France (i think).
My nomination:- John Barnes

controversial, possibly deliberately so!!!

Nigel Winterburn. The definte value in the famous back 4.

Did Steve Bould ever get a cap?


I thought he was useless and had a reputation entirely derived from years next to Adams

Ray Parlour.

Michael Ball
Gavin Mcann

Both useless

come on nemesis be objective!!!!

tony daley, keith curle, geoff thomas and earl barrett from the taylor era are heads and shoulders above any other cr*p players since.

Gavin McCann in recent times is a good shout.

I remember that Taylor even played Keith Curle as a right wing back or maybe just a conventional right back!!!

I seem to remember Graham Taylor picking the Arsenal back four for one game.

Dixon, Adams, Bould and Winterburn.

Nemesis stop picking Arsenal players or I'll reply in kind.

Ralph Coates for starters

FFS! Why cant you take it that some average players have played for Arsenal?

Nigel Winterburn and Ray Parlour are both shit. Always have been.

come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they were not sh*t - maybe average players in a great team, but you do not play that many games for arsenal ESPECIALLY under Wenger if you are not up to it.

The title of this thread is the worst players, not the average players!!!

You are boring me with your bias views.

Anyone mentioned Carlton Palmer yet?

He is always going to be 1st on the team sheet.

See first post


Primus Inter Pares amongst candidates. Doesn't even need an interview

How about Barry Venison? Dreadful

Ian Storey-Moore

OMG just remembered another gem

Andy Hinchcliffe

How he ever played for England is beyond me

Great shout.


He beats Dorigo to the LB spot comfortably

Man City forward.

David White

now that is a great one!!!

Graham Taylor didn't half come out with some classics!

I dont need to worry that McLaren will be similar do I?

Who give Hinchcliffe his cap?  Took a mean corner but boy he was cr*p

worst england teams...................

1970-1980
          
1....jimmy rimmer (arsenal)
2....mike pejic (stoke)
3....mark towers (sunderland)
4....john gidman  (aston villa)
5....steve whitworth (leicester)  sorry tighty
6....john dobson (burnley)
7....ian gillard (qpr)
8....colin viljoen (ipswich)
9....paul mariner (ipswich)
10...kevin hector (derby)
11...trevor whymark (ipswich)

1980-1990

1....gary bailey (man utd)
2....mike duxbury (man utd)
3....derek statham (wba)
4....russell osman (ipswich)
5....steve foster (brighton)
6....steve williams (southampton)
7....eric gates (ipswich)
8....steve hodge (aston villa)
9....john fashanu (wimbledon)
10...mick harford (luton)
11...david armstrong (middlesboro)

1990-2000

1....tim flowers (southampton)
2....gary charles (notts forest)
3....keith curle (man city)
4....earle barrett (oldham)
5....steve howey (newcastle)
6....carlton palmer (sheff wed)
7....stuart ripley (blackburn)
8....paul stewart (spurs)
9....david white (man city)
10...geoff thomas (crystal palace)
11...andy sinton (qpr)

2000-present day

1....richard wright (ipswich)
2....michael ball (everton)
3....gavin mccann (sunderland)
4....chris powell (charlton)
5....zat knight (fulham)
6....jason wilcox (leeds)
7....david dunn (blackburn)
8....seth johnson (derby)
9....emile heskey (liverpool)
10...francis jeffers (arsenal)
11...michael ricketts (bolton)


i hereby deduce that the 1990-2000 era contained the greatest "crap" england team.

I have to disagree with Tim Flowers. He was a top goal keeper.

briane deane (sheff utd)    steve stone (forest)    owen Hargreaves (bayern munich)   andy johnson (palace)

totally agree, excellent and consistent. Ian Walker versus Italy has to be in the 1990-2000 Team

Steve Whitworth was very good too in the 70s at full back



Great lists though booder, saved me a job for later

wilcox and seth johnson definately,   Palmer was a great player in the early 90's.                       If anyone puts david Hirst up here i'll go barmy, him and and shearer would have been awesome

How about Rod wallace

The worst player to be capped by England has to be Gary Charles

"First amongst Equals"? No way he stands out and deserves the Captains armband of this lot of losers.

David White.
Brian Deane.

chris sutton and tony daley are my shouts

after sutton refused to play for engalnd B he became the biggest disgrace ever to pull on an england shirt

also lee hendrie is worth a shout

francis jeffers may be a one cap wonder but he did score in his only game


finally ever crap team needs a crap manager and only graham taylor fits the bill
( although tighty might vote for peter taylor)
it was peter taylor tht gave beckam the captains armband

Everyone picks  on Carlton Palmer even his manager. Still remeber a quote by Dave Jones about him "We reckon Carlton Palmer covers every blade of grass — but then you have to if your first touch is that crap.""


Also thought this was quite funny
http://www.geocities.com/carlton_palmer_4_england/

Can't have Paul Mariner in there. Who will ever forget that final qualifier for the 1982 World Cup in Spain and we had to beat Hungary to get there and he fell over the ball and it bobbled over the line. But for him we wouldnt have got there :)

That site is brilliant!