Title: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: GlasgowBandit on May 14, 2006, 05:13:43 AM Having stayed up tow atch the fight I think Ricky was very lucky to have the decision go his way.
IMO he was outvoxed for the majority of the fight and was lucky that his opponent never seemed to have the power that he can expect to meet if he stays in this division. I was also dissapointed with the undercard that SKy Box Office produced the first fight on the Hatton bout was class but wasted by bad referreing. Clinton woods done well but as for the rest of the fights, the majority where no better than amateur fights I would have expected a quality night of boxing having forked out £15 or for the fight. Hopefully Ricky can go on from this but I wouldn;t facny his chances against any the bigger punchers in that division I reckon he will be going back down in weight. Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: lvlarc_uk on May 14, 2006, 05:48:43 AM Not lucky, He won that by at least 2 points for me, Collazo had the cleaner shots, but Hatton was landing alot more. He was right on top of him in every round, sacraficed defence for workrate (as he always does)
HBO's copybox stats also had Hatton landing more with higher percentage. Add the 10-8 round at start and we have a 115-112 Hatton. Was suprised Hatton didn't cut though as he usually does. Also thought Ricky should of been warned for excessive holding. Definetly one of, or thee toughest fight of his career though. Back to the drawing board for Billy, get Ricky working that damn jab! Ricky needs a fight with Gatti now to restore faith back into US public for that mega fight with PBF. Gatti's style would suit Hitman perfectly. Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Sark79 on May 14, 2006, 11:19:28 AM It was a good fight I thought. Hatton sure is flying high in the boxing world now. Where will this rank him pound for pound?
Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Nem on May 14, 2006, 11:27:06 AM Hatton sure is flying high in the boxing world now. Where will this rank him pound for pound? 1 Manny Pacquiao Super Featherweight 2 Jose Luis Castillo Light Welterweight 3 Wladimir Klitschko Heavyweight 4 Antonio Tarver Light Heavyweight 5 Floyd Mayweather Jr Welterweight 6 Diego Corrales Lightweight 7 Chris John Featherweight 8 Marco Antonio Barrera Super Featherweight 9 Juan Manuel Marquez Featherweight 10 Ronald Wright Middleweight 11 Shane Mosley Light Middleweight 12 Jermain Taylor Middleweight 13 Joe Calzaghe Super Middleweight 14 Nikolay Valuev Heavyweight 15 Bernard Hopkins Middleweight 16 Chris Byrd Heavyweight 17 Arturo Gatti Welterweight 18 James Toney Heavyweight 19 Glen Johnson Light Heavyweight 20 Ricky Hatton Welterweight 21 Scott Harrison Featherweight 22 Israel Vazquez Super Bantamweight 23 John Ruiz Heavyweight 24 Carlos Manuel Baldomir Welterweight 25 Acelino Freitas Lightweight Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Sark79 on May 14, 2006, 11:31:17 AM Wladimir Klitschko in 3rd Shane Mosley in 11th. Both ahead of Hatton and Calzage. I don't think the sugar shane mosley of the last couple of years deserves to be that high up.
Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: AdamM on May 14, 2006, 12:21:28 PM He did just enough to win it but I think he was lucky to get the decision over there. In Vegas he'd lose that fight. Credit to the judges for getting it right (for a change)
It really wins me up when commentators bang on and on about 1/2 stone weight difference being a big factor in a fight. for a start even at light welterwieght (10st max) Ricky would weight well over 11st on fight day. If there are height and reach advantages associated with a bigger fighter that's a different matter but niether fighter weighed anywhere near the 10 1/2st on the stats. Punch power isnt affected by weight or muscle, especially close punches like hooks and uppercuts, it's about rotation and speed. a couple of pounds either way wont affect that. Hatton will never be a fighter who works off a jab. he's a brawler. close distance => hook body => hook head => uppercut => repeat till final bell or broken ribs. Ian Darke may well know his stats and facts but sometimes it's obvious listening to him he's never fought himself. close fight and Hatton will have to improve to beat the best Welterweights, but saying that, still proud of him. GO ON RICKY Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Nem on May 14, 2006, 01:45:41 PM Hatton doenst stand a chance against PBF.
Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: ifm on May 14, 2006, 01:50:21 PM I don't think he was lucky at all.
Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: GlasgowBandit on May 14, 2006, 02:32:18 PM I don't think he was lucky at all. Really? Had his opponent had any puncghing power Ricky would have been on the canvas by mid way. Hattonw as out=boxed last night and made too look very ordinary. He should have been floored in the 12th also - but mateboy just lacked power Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: ifm on May 14, 2006, 02:42:35 PM Should have, could have............
I should have taken golf up at an earlier age, then i could have been better at it. He was not lucky last night, he was against an opponent that he was more than capable of beating, and did. Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Nem on May 14, 2006, 02:53:02 PM On average, all the reports I have read, have Hatton winning by 2-4 rounds.
Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Bazzaboy on May 14, 2006, 03:40:37 PM I had Hatton winning by 2 rounds. By no means a vintage performance but he did win the fight.
Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: bolt pp on May 14, 2006, 04:57:36 PM I'm so used to hatton demolishon jobs that when he puts in a sub standard perforfance(albeit a winning one) i'm inclined to give him a bit more stick than i would others.
He won, but dissapointingly! Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: GlasgowBandit on May 14, 2006, 05:28:39 PM I scored the fight as a draw.
I still feel Hatton was lucky to have won the fight. I have a helluva lot of admiration for Ricky and he is one of my favourite sport stars but was dissapointed with him last night and as soon as he ocmes up against a power puncher in this division he is done for. One thing that never seemed to work for him last night was his body shots these normally cripps his opponents. Jim Watt made a commenet about how better boxers keep their guard tight and son't let decent body punchers get at them whats the opinions on that? Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Nem on May 14, 2006, 05:35:43 PM Collazo was a difficult opponent, Hattons toughest fight so far. Collazo is a south paw as well, and is very tall, so you can see why it was his most difficult fight. I do think that his trainer has to go back to the drawing board if he has any chance against the top fighters. Hatton may have to change style and learn how to jab, or he will simply be picked off by the best.
Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: bolt pp on May 14, 2006, 05:38:42 PM I scored the fight as a draw. tysu was the best for how many years,i'm not sure? but he wore, what had been one of the tightest defences for a decade, down with the ferocity of his body shots.I still feel Hatton was lucky to have won the fight. I have a helluva lot of admiration for Ricky and he is one of my favourite sport stars but was dissapointed with him last night and as soon as he ocmes up against a power puncher in this division he is done for. One thing that never seemed to work for him last night was his body shots these normally cripps his opponents. Jim Watt made a commenet about how better boxers keep their guard tight and son't let decent body punchers get at them whats the opinions on that? he was'nt jolly for that fight either. i dont subscribe to that theory, just an off night i think. If you nick a win when putting in a below standard performance at this level then it shows the true class of ricky hatton i think. Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: bolt pp on May 14, 2006, 05:42:50 PM Collazo was a difficult opponent, Hattons toughest fight so far. Collazo is a south paw as well, and is very tall, so you can see why it was his most difficult fight. I do think that his trainer has to go back to the drawing board if he has any chance against the top fighters. Hatton may have to change style and learn how to jab, or he will simply be picked off by the best. come on nemesis, leave it out mate. You cant really believe that! The only time i've known hatton to be odds against in he's proffessional career was agains tsu and he slaughtered him. who are these better opponents and what level of class is he yet to achieve. Am i missing something :dontask: Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Nem on May 14, 2006, 05:52:31 PM I quoted Hatton. He said that this was his toughest fight so far. The Tszyu fight look great on paper but in reality he was an old man who had only fought 3 rounds in 2 years and against a hungry younger man in Hatton. Castillo, PBF, DLH, , Cotto, Mosley etc.. are the better opponents I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: The Baron on May 14, 2006, 05:53:47 PM Hatton was looking to his next opponent before this fight. I think he underestimated Collazo.
Still think he did enough to win but not by much. PBF will beat Hatton eyes shut on this performance. Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Rooky9 on May 14, 2006, 06:01:49 PM wtf is PBF?!
Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Bazzaboy on May 14, 2006, 06:04:05 PM Floyd Mayweather Jnr
Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Sark79 on May 14, 2006, 06:08:26 PM Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Nem on May 14, 2006, 06:11:50 PM PBF= Pretty Boy Floyd
DLH= De la Hoya Title: Re: Ricky Hatton is a Lucky, Lucky boy!! Post by: Rooky9 on May 15, 2006, 06:08:24 PM Ta
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