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Title: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: tikay on May 16, 2006, 05:55:43 PM
The self-same pop-up that arose yesterday & caught one or 2 guys off-guard has just re-appeared on Laddies.

"The first 10 players to visit this site will win $10,000"....

It's a simple "system Message" & gives a www. addy.

The addy is VERY similar to the real Laddies address.

Please do NOT click "OK", whatever you do.

It has popped-up 3 more times whilst I am Posting this.


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: vinni on May 16, 2006, 05:57:09 PM
same thing here


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: TightEnd on May 16, 2006, 05:57:57 PM
Beat me too it tikay, just saw it too


The longer this goes on, the more traffic on the site MUST be affected


Hope they manage to sort it quick for their own sakes


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: ariston on May 16, 2006, 06:02:15 PM
I have left the  cash game I was in and will do whenever the spammers/hackers are in town. I know we all get reassured about the rng etc but I can't help wondering if someone is clever enough to get into a secure site like ladbrokes then why cant they get at the cards? I just won a daddy sat for $10 for tonight otherwise I wouldn't be playing on there till they sort this out. Back to betfair only for the time being I think which is a shame as I think the comps on laddies are very good and well structured.


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: crip17 on May 16, 2006, 06:03:29 PM
They just dont give up.   The pop ups are really starting to pi** me off.


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: Nem on May 16, 2006, 06:12:24 PM
I have left the  cash game I was in and will do whenever the spammers/hackers are in town. I know we all get reassured about the rng etc but I can't help wondering if someone is clever enough to get into a secure site like ladbrokes then why cant they get at the cards? I just won a daddy sat for $10 for tonight otherwise I wouldn't be playing on there till they sort this out. Back to betfair only for the time being I think which is a shame as I think the comps on laddies are very good and well structured.

Unfortunately, the same thing happened on Betfair the other day.


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: Bongo on May 16, 2006, 06:22:33 PM
I imagine it's just the chat part that has been compromised, they probably just bolted it on with no thought to security (as it's not really a risk).

The hackers probably just figured out what they had to send to where to make the program display it (by monitoring what their client sent recieved) and bingo!


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: MrMoves on May 16, 2006, 06:24:58 PM
I have left the  cash game I was in and will do whenever the spammers/hackers are in town. I know we all get reassured about the rng etc but I can't help wondering if someone is clever enough to get into a secure site like ladbrokes then why cant they get at the cards? I just won a daddy sat for $10 for tonight otherwise I wouldn't be playing on there till they sort this out. Back to betfair only for the time being I think which is a shame as I think the comps on laddies are very good and well structured.

Hi Russ,

A good point.  I think the RNG will be running on a seperate high security server.  I'm guessing the pop-up messages are through a different machine.  All the same it doesn't inspire confidence does it?  


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: LukieD on May 16, 2006, 08:14:38 PM
I dont know if it works in the same way as on Tribeca but they could have just hacked a hosts account who has the ability to send the messages. If they have taken over their computer they would have the ability to send/use the programs necessary to send the msgs.


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: mex on May 16, 2006, 08:50:16 PM
adding a pop up doesn't require getting into the site at all, just have pop ups b lock but accept ones from laddies and it shouldn't even appear


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: dik9 on May 16, 2006, 10:55:40 PM
I know that we are not allowed links Mods if you wish feel free to delete but this is more info than anything http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2006/5/trojan-horse-virus-poker.htm


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: TheDoc12345 on May 17, 2006, 01:18:30 PM
Question for a teckie:-

When you go to a web address, lets say you clicked on the $30,000,000 dodgy BBC web address that was on Ladbrokes, can that site automaticly download a virus or do you have to physically click on a link on that page to receive it ?

In other words, if you typed in a web address into the Explorer bar at the top of Internet Explorer, could that page automaticly download a virus ?

The common sense answer is YES - but think about it, surely when you load a web page thats all you're doing, not physically downloading a file unless you click on a link which is a "downloadable file" ....

I ask this in relation to someones post earlier that they went to the web address, realised that it probably is dodgy and quickly closed the window. If the site was dodgy then surely the .exe (virus) file wouldn't stop downloading just because you closed the window ?

By the way, there is a spate of advertising thingies going on at the moment where your normal windows screen is replaced by a blue screen (still with icons) and a note in the middle saying that your computer has been infected. It also tells you your IP address (which is incorrect) and the system you are using (easily got!) Also it says click on the following link to find out how to stop the problem. This sends you to a "spyware" advertising page enticing people to order a product.

If you get this, which lots of people apparently have, copy the first line of the message into google or yahoo search and there are many sites that will delete it for you...  It is NOT a virus, just a nasty advertising ploy....


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: Trace on May 17, 2006, 01:23:45 PM


By the way, there is a spate of advertising thingies going on at the moment where your normal windows screen is replaced by a blue screen (still with icons) and a note in the middle saying that your computer has been infected. It also tells you your IP address (which is incorrect) and the system you are using (easily got!) Also it says click on the following link to find out how to stop the problem. This sends you to a "spyware" advertising page enticing people to order a product.

If you get this, which lots of people apparently have, copy the first line of the message into google or yahoo search and there are many sites that will delete it for you...  It is NOT a virus, just a nasty advertising ploy....

My brother had this on his laptop - something must have been downloadable on it as it hijacked his laptop, I had to reformat the damn thing for him - he had no firewall, no AV software, no spyware software on the lappy.  Needless to say when it went back to him it was loaded up with all sorts of protection.  If I could of found a condom to fit it, it would have been wearing one of those too.



Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: Nem on May 17, 2006, 01:28:24 PM

My brother had this on his laptop - something must have been downloadable on it as it hijacked his laptop, I had to reformat the damn thing for him - he had no firewall, no AV software, no spyware software on the lappy.  Needless to say when it went back to him it was loaded up with all sorts of protection.  If I could of found a condom to fit it, it would have been wearing one of those too.



Was the hijacker called spyware Quake?


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: TheDoc12345 on May 17, 2006, 01:30:40 PM
That's what we initially thought we had to do - went off searching for disc's and things, then did a quick search on Norton and Symantec which resulted in nothing - then did the simple search on google and found the solution.

The comp is working fine now and we have performed many many tests to make sure there isn't anything now left....

The condom - excellent idea - maybe you should talk to microsoft !! hehe


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: Bongo on May 17, 2006, 01:32:35 PM
It's entirely possible to be infected by a virus just by visiting a webpage (it would depend on many things being in place though).

In this case though it looks as if they were relying on people to download and then run the file (thinking it was something else). If i'd visited the page i'd still want to run a full AV scan just to be sure.

Closing the window would normally stop what the page was doing so should stop the virus from being run automatically if that is what the page was designed to do (provided it hadn't already been run, you may be too late).

Good point on the spyware scams too, i'd say always ask on here if you're unsure - they are several people who will be able to tell you what's what.


Title: Re: The Laddies Spammer strikes again......
Post by: Trace on May 17, 2006, 01:38:52 PM

My brother had this on his laptop - something must have been downloadable on it as it hijacked his laptop, I had to reformat the damn thing for him - he had no firewall, no AV software, no spyware software on the lappy.  Needless to say when it went back to him it was loaded up with all sorts of protection.  If I could of found a condom to fit it, it would have been wearing one of those too.



Was the hijacker called spyware Quake?

I can't remember what it was called, I tried for hours to sort it out without a reformat, but in the end lost my rag and just reformatted it anyway - serves him right for going on dodgy sites!