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How many people have had this thought if i play my most consistent game i should easily be able to average $100 a day, $100 a day times 30 days thats 3k a month onto of my wages, over a year that is 36k, easy.
How many people can actually do it? or have done it? Wish i had the discipline for that.

I have been thinking the VERY same thing.

I think that if you just play low level cash games, 50c $1 max and NO Tourneys, then this would be easily achievable.

Discipline is the key though,, all too easy to move up levels, or to try and make $200 a day, then $300 a day. Keep it small and EVERY day will always pay.

At the moment, I am experimenting with another tactic, which is paying approx $300 a day for the last 5 days, but as I like the tourneys, that $300 is paying for my tourneys, so unless I cash in them (which has been very dry of late) then I make $zero.

btw    :goodpost:

Regularly, used to do that on blackjack, sometimes successfully, but I have real sense of value for money, and enjoy the winning more, so would just keep trying to win and win and win. Until I lost.
At one point I was regularly turning £20 into £500-750 at poker too, but then as M£ boy said, I'd just play bigger tables or more aggressively, and eventually I lose

I like your idea of a fixed amount for mtt buy ins everyday, could stop me spunking oodles of money playing stupid speed re buy tournaments because it happens to be starting when i'm looking for something to play.

I recently tried being disciplined on the 0.50/1 tables and grinding out $50/$100 but my god it was boring and i was on the 2/4 and 3/6 very quickly. Had a great run but that is not the point, i couldn't be disciplined for more than 2 days.

I think making $100 a day grinding it out on 50/1 tables should be very easy . I think you could even do it with a fairly low amount of varience if you modify the way you play and be risk averse. However Its very very very dull and I just cant resist firing up a stt or mtt . This affects my play on the cash tables as playing the 2 stlyes simultanousley screws my cash game. Definately achieveable with discipline tho .

The very disciplined but very boring low variance approach to online cash games is exactly the way I do it, with good results so far

I find though I need one day a week of SNGs both to stop me going berserk and for a little action.

For a two month spell, my having done this 12 days out of 14 since Xmas, this approach to cash games killed my tournament play so now I do the odd MTT online and leave decent gaps between both types of play. Consequently my live form has picked up again.

The disciplines are very different.

Finally, do not confuse one's ability to grind out acceptable ROIs at levels up to $2-4 as being at all what is required for $5-10 and above...there you need an acceptance of variance and the ability both to make and recognise moves IMO

The site you play can make a big difference. For example I think the cash games on Tribecca offer lots of opportunity but the STTs are better on Stars and I would not touch tournies except as a bonus to myself if things are going well

Its the buzz of a tourney win though.

Say, I make $1500 playing cash in a day, but I win an MTT for $1500

Which gives you the bigger buzz??  The MTT win of course.

Personal opinion, I get a huge buzz out of playing cash games with big pots.
Bigger rush imo.

The Buzz is great ....going to Vegas coz I managed my cash is better

Tighty, do you sacrifice +ev plays to keep your variance to a minimum ? If you have JJ and the other player has AKs would you call for a buyin?

Tough question jezza


how am I meant to know hes got AK suited?

theoretically though, giving away trade secrets though, to someone my notes has labelled as ABC-Solid then yes

to Fish-Loose-Aggressive then no


fortunately the fish to ABC quotient is unbalanced at levels from $1-2 down.

It's not "of course". depends on your character type and motivations for playing the game. If you are palying for subsistence purposes then the delight from spending 3 hours doubling your buy in can have far greater utility than a MTT win

To the casual/wealthy/action player though then sure the MTT


but its horses for coursess

This is quite a topical point for me, as I have been trying to put in the hours at lowish limit nlhe over the last couple of months. 

My biggest problem is I find that I have to really force myself to play during periods of running well.  I think the problem is that I know a downswing is on the way and I would rather postpone this as long as possible and prolong the feelgood factor of running well.

Agreed Richard.

It's me forgetting that some/most people play poker as an income rather than as a profitable hobby.

god it gets  boring!!!!!!!!

I shouldnt complain but thats the reality of it.

familiarity breads contempt and all that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but for some it's neither, sigh

Have to agree, winning a tournament rarely holds a buzz for me anymore, if i did well to win it or i came back from being arse raped in the later stages then i am always buzzing, i can come 3rd and feel 10x better than when i win a comp.

Are you guys playing full ring or short handed cash games? You have to get a little bit funky at short handed right?

No, in low limit cash games (be it 6 or 9 handed) you play solid ABC poker - make your $100 a day

it shouldnt be knocked but it makes it very easy to fall out of love with the game.

How many hours and how many tables at a time will it take to average the $100?

I think you aim to make you $100 but if you make a bit more then stick it into a stt or mtt.
Playing poker is meant to be enjoyable.

1 table= 3 hours of conservative "abc" poker

do u earn a crust online then boly..yr main income?

I saw a post by someone I believe to be trustworthy, which said both him and his friend were earning $500 an hour over a period of several months 5 tabling 2/4.

no its not my main income.

my main income is getting people to invest in a scheme that helps some wealthy nigerian freinds of mine release money from there bank accounts, are you interested in signing up?

i also work as the head doorman at mothercare at the weekend.

people say I'm naive

where do i sign

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I'm reading threads like this all the time now. Does anyone want to bankroll me for a bit of 10/20?

not that i'd ever turn down JJ vs AKs for a buyin, but if I were to choose between the two, I would be completely the opposite. If the Fishy lag does win, I'd expect it to be more likely that over time I'd win chips back off him then the Solid guy, so I wouldn't be overly averse to chipping up the lag. Also in my experince, these ABC dudes just rathole if they win a buyin, so in general it (just imo naturally) would be harder to win back from the solid guys then the fishy lags. Thats on the assumption that they aren't just gonna give you a stack when yu flop a set vs their overpair, but if they are solid players, they are gonna be more likely to avoid this pitfall

I think though this thread is a bit dismissive of how simple the whole job would be. Its not easy to win $100 a day every day at any level, let alone 0.50/1.. and considering a great profit level would be around 12 BB's/100 hands, saying it would take 3 hours per day on ONE table would indicate a win rate of about half a big blind per hand. Good luck trying to do that over an extended period

If you are an exceptional player and can make 15BB's/100 hands, then naturally at $15 per 100, you are looking at roughly 700 hands per day to make your $100 target.. and given you play roughly 60 hands/hour/table at full ring, you can see that it probably isn't the walk in the park most people make it out to be.

One of the biggest fallicies in poker is under-estimating the mental ability required to play cash games on a daily basis... the swings can make you feel like giving up (daily).. winning/losing $4,000 (or whatever figure that matters personally to you) in an hour, and then knowing the next hour is going to be the same, and then knowing the next week is going to be the same, and then knowing the next year is going to be the same is a horrible feeling when you are feeling dejected. Its the best place in the world when you are running good, getting paid off, earning money of unseen sums, but the downside (which is always neglected) is quite possibly the lonliest place on the planet mentally. It tests your personal mettle to a higher degree then I have ever experienced, makes you ask questions about yourself, your life/future almost on a daily level, and for a lot of people, the answers to these questions aren't ones they wanna hear. How you react to these inner questions when they arise is how you will guage your ability to beat the cash games on a daily consistent basis

Anyways, after all that.. yes, its certainly do-able, just harder then you would imagine at first glance

best wishes





 

Over the last two and a half years when i've been playing poker online seriously for real money i've constantly thought that. However for me the discipline comes by keeping away from the cash games and the sit and go's when i have the odd hour to spare, resisting the temptation to go for a quick fix!!  :D

Discipline is a big problem for me.  I tend to drift off if things are slow and find myself getting a bit bored so I either start surfing around or play a couple of hands I shouldn't get involved with.  I'm working on it at the moment, little things like actually letting go of the mouse in between goes helps and playing a couple or 3 tables at a time helps too.


Anyway, discipline is a problem for me but I think I'm getting better.

Do you not like cash games at all matt?.  I know Tikay has said he only plays cash games while playing live rather than online.  Are you the same?.  I have always found this is a difficult part of poker.

 Do you focus your energies on becoming good in one area such as mtt. By doing this, you become a consistent winner such as yourself matt. Or do you play a mix of different types of games... mtt, stt, HU and cash games. By taking this approach it is possible that a player may not be able to fully realise their potential in one style of poker because they are always jumping between the various types.  I am beginning to feel there are only certain people that can do everything well and others like myself have to make the most of a lesser knowledge base in terms of poker. I think by sticking to one type such as matt does seems to be the way to go. That way you can become really good at it and make money.  I still love ring games the most, but loose money trying other types because I don't yet have the ability to say "NO" to myself.

To me anything you do should be enjoyable. I have been a recreational player for 30 years and have only recently (the last three years) started playing more. I prefer live to on line everytime but most of all I want to enjoy what I do. There seems to be so many players that play everyday on line and no longer enjoy the game. This is obviously going to burn them out and will result in them losing. Poker cannot be played well with to much emotion attatched, if you are tired,bored, buzzed or angry you will not play your best game.

So the discipline is as much about balancing your life off the table as it is on it. If poker becomes a chore...walk away for a while, it will still be there when you come back. Play the games that give you confidence and challenge yourself in a way that makes you fel positive, not scared or bored.

If you are questioning everything that you do, the games and structures that you play and the hours that you put in........then its time to take a break.......Vegas is nice at this time of year  :D :D :D :D

Keep on smiling

 ;tk; ;tk; ;tk;

I find poker can be tough if you have to grind it out every single day.

I try and play a little each day, recently heads-up games from $50 - $200 on Stars somewhere I haven't really played heads-up or STT to any real extent previously, with the odd $300 on Poker Heaven.  These short games keep my interest whilst supplying an income above your average burger flipper.

If I had to play for a living I would play $1/$2 and $2/$4 NL.  I played this level for 40 days last year and averaged $282 per day.  50c/$1 NL would surely make any reasonable player $100 a day if that's what to you're looking for.

That 2+2 thread was eyeopening.


Since when is making $1m just resonable

I said this after watching and talking to the scandies in monaco, that the real money is being made playing cash games.

That 2+2 thread is an eye opener if you take it as all true but the % of players acheving that kind of cash must be miniscule.

of course, but hell making just 1/4 of that would be fecking class!

very true. You do have to be a good player tho.

Read the LOLtrickedU posts in the BBV forum. Posts as ehustler, 19 years old $200K per month IIRC.