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Before I went to the Western p4c game I went through a bad patch on stts (what used to be my breadwinner) so I ventured onto cash and found I did pretty good.

Normal night would be loose $25/30 on $5 stts, with the odd win, go on cash 10/20c and win $30/50.

Since then I found I have done better on stts but cash has gone to hell.

I went through $200 in the week after p4c which is a lot for me, then got my form back and im doing reasonably ok..ie won back my $200 and holding steady.

Trouble is....when I went through my bad patch I took a fair bit of abuse about my bad play and I now have a couple of players who STALK me.

They sit at my table with a bigger roll and tease me to go allin, so unless ive got a hand im blinding away.

I dont know what to do...I either have a totally disasterous night like 2 night ago when I lost $80 or a good night like last night when i won $170

I have moved up to 50/1 and I know i have FISH written all over me but these (2 guys) are basically bullying me into playing iffy hands and then slagging me off big time when they hit.

I enjoy playing cash but this has dented my confidence.

If players are looking for me it must mean im a soft target??

So should I give it up for a while?

Can a mod please delete this...after reading it I think I answered my own question

A couple of points I'd make suzanne.

First stts and cash are really different games.

Cash to me is a lot about patience and stamina and mentally outlasting people. One of the reasons why cash games can be so popular is the majority of people just don't have the patience to sit there and nut peddle at the lower levels. Boredom soon sets in for most people and they wnat to dance around in pots with all sorts of funky hands. Wait them out and take them on with mroe solid holdings and you'll come out ahead in the long run. It's rock like, it's nut peddling, it can be very boring but at these limits you can beat the game playing this way.

(If you play higher limits you'll need to expand your repetoire of hands and mix it up more as the players will be better and less liable to pay off your good hands.)

While you are waiting for hands, keep an eye on the players around you. They are throwing information at you in every pot they play. Soak it all up. Put them on hands based on how they play. When you're wrong, think about why they played that hand the way they did. Get inside their heads. Do they call big bets on the turn with flush draws? Do they bluff a lot? When they overbet the pot, what does this mean?  The next time you get in a pot with them, this will be invaluable information.

You might see them call a big bet with top pair on the river. Great. Next time you are in a pot with them with a set or two pair on the river, make a big bet, chances are you'll get called.

Work out your game plan as you go along. Who's the value in the game(is flushie on the table)? Who are the stronger players ? In general try and play your bigger pots when you have position and therefore more information.

BUT play YOUR game on YOUR terms.

Don't let other players goad you or bully you. If they are doing it in the chat and you can't ignore them, turn the chat off! It's crucial that you don't let other players unsettle or fluster you as you wont be focusing fully on the game. Laugh at them. One reason they might be trying to unsettle you is because they feel they don't have a poker edge over you so are lookign for other means to mess up your concentration. Don't let them!

One thing you mentioned was the swings in cash. Well cash is a bit like that. You can have some magic nights on cash where you win big scores but you will also lose sometimes. That's the way it goes unfortunately. No limit can be a volatile game. One big pot can be the difference between being well up or well down for the session.

If you lose some big hands and are not sure of how you played them, post them up on the hand analysis page. Don't worry if you feel embarrassed about your play. You'll get positive feedback from most posters and consructive criticism. Learn from this and you'll have improved. Maybe you played the hand perfectly and were unlucky.

Hope some of this rambling has helped in some way.

Good luck, let's hear how you get on!

Lots of excellent advice from JungleCat. Take a short break from Cash Games, then jump right back & get that enjoyment back. Switching between sites can help. Good Luck Suzanne

I guess it's always a good idea to switch to another game if you're fed up with cashgames.

Try SitNgoes or multis, maybe even omaha.

Managing your bankroll well is extremely important. From the sounds of it you are playing stakes which don't currently suit your bankroll. Playing .50/1 the min. buyin in is $10 but realistically that doesn't give you much to play with so say you are buying in for $50 you bankroll should be AT LEAST $1500. Then if you lose a buyin it won't affect you roll as much.

Another important thing is to take breaks at the right time. If you lose a buyin and realise you are playing badly then stop and take a break. If was an unlucky bad beat it might be worth taking a break to avoid tilting. Another piece of advice I have heard is if you have a couple of bad days then drop down to a lower level, get your confidence back whilst at the same time risk losing less and then when you feel you have your game back move back up.

Whilst moving between STTs, Cash and MTTs can help some people you must be careful because each requires very different skills and some people are unable to effectively vary between each which can lead to losing $$$$$.

Suzanne, I take it you do not want this deleted?

Even more so because of the excellent advice from JungleCat and others?

Hi Suzanne,

If these guys are intimidating you, why not try playing on another site for a bit?  Hope you keep winning!

Claire x

Name and shame I say.

The hunters may become the hunted  8)

 :goodpost:      JungleCat

Hi Suzanne,

You know I can never resist commenting on one of your hand analysis/ self analyis type postings. I think this is probably due to the fact we clearly  move in similar areas and levels of the poker world  ( but folks I’m not one of her stalkers…ok! )

Loads of points raised so going through them in order


Normal night would be loose $25/30 on $5 stts, with the odd win, go on cash 10/20c and win $30/50.

Since then I found I have done better on stts but cash has gone to hell.

As Jungle Cat says, in his excellent post, these are two very different games. Cash games are all about being patient and being very selective about which hands and positions you play whereas STT’s quickly build into situations where, out of necessity, you are involved in pots far more frequently.

Going from STT’s to cash games will make the cash game seem very boring and will result, unless you are very disciplined, in a mental urge to play far more hands than you should.

I went through $200 in the week after p4c which is a lot for me, then got my form back and im doing reasonably ok..ie won back my $200 and holding steady.

Is this the result of your “form” though or just natural poker variance?  Every poker player in the world will experience peaks and troughs like this.  Have you looked back at the big hands that you lost in the first week together with the ones won in the second and noticed any differences in the way that you played them?

Trouble is....when I went through my bad patch I took a fair bit of abuse about my bad play and I now have a couple of players who STALK me.

They sit at my table with a bigger roll and tease me to go allin, so unless ive got a hand im blinding away.

Ok….not nice. After all I imagine that essentially you play poker, like myself, primarily for fun.  Yes we play to win but ultimately it’s entertainment as much as anything.

Firstly are you saying these players stalk you together or separately?  If it’s together then don’t play them as it’s highly likely they could be involved in collusion against both you and other players.

If it’s individual stalkers then I reckon you have the ability to take them on and beat them providing you just play your normal game and don’t react to any chat.

I would imagine these guys try verbal abuse with lots of players and have singled you out now maybe because you reacted to it initially? Did your style of play change when the abuse started?

If you don’t want the hassle of putting up with these guys ( I’m assuming they are guys! ) then don’t play them. Like I said before this online poker thing should primarily be fun!!!!

If you want to take one of them one then you have to ensure you do not get distracted by any comments in chat box.  Patience again will be a virtue here, wait for premium hands only and then play them strongly.  Likelihood is that your all-ins with premium hands will get paid.   It’s also worth trying to ensure that you sit to the left of your opponent therefore getting position on him in virtually all hands.

I dont know what to do...I either have a totally disasterous night like 2 night ago when I lost $80 or a good night like last night when i won $170

Again variance must be mentioned here although, to me,this is quite a large variance if you’re only playing 0.10/0.20.   ( depends though on how many hours you’re playing too of course! )

But lets put things into perspective here Suzanne….even if you have two bad nights for every good one you will still end up in profit!!!!!

I have moved up to 50/1 and I know i have FISH written all over me but these (2 guys) are basically bullying me into playing iffy hands and then slagging me off big time when they hit.

Not a good move here Suzanne to be honest.  You are not moving up for the right reasons, your variance will now be five times larger, you will need a much bigger bankroll and you will be meeting better players.  Think about the fact that any standard preflop raise will mean investing $3/$4 in a single hand….are you comfortable with that?

I enjoy playing cash but this has dented my confidence.

Probably the most revealing and relevant line of your post.   I think you are very much a confidence player. If you can stick to your game and not let things affect your confidence too much you will do well.

If players are looking for me it must mean im a soft target??

Suzanne, it means that probably they gained a reaction from you and you let this affect your play?

So should I give it up for a while?

No I don’t think so but perhaps you have to evaluate a few things.

My conclusion would be :-

Firstly, you can play the game well enough to more than hold your own at the levels you currently play.  I’ve played enough with you and have seen enough of your posts about your play to know this for a fact.

Secondly, you seem to be doing ok overall from this poker thing!  The ups seem to outweigh the downs in your post!

However maybe you need to ask yourself the following questions to see if certain factors are affecting your game in a detrimental fashion at times?

1.   Are you too impatient to be involved in hands when playing cash games after STT’s?
2.   Do you let other player’s negative comments affect your game?
3.   Are other players able to tell that their comment’s have affected your gameplay/confidence?
4.   Does your current overall bankroll situation affect your gameplay?
5.   Do you look at hand histories and evaluate your play in the big cash pots (wins and losses)?

Hope this helps, Keith

Good thread, I'm glad it wasn't deleted!


Interesting and timely advice, I was going to start a thread asking about bankroll requirements for NL cash games.   I am sure the answers will help Suzanne too (after all this is her party!)

I currently play $100 STT with 20 x buy in which some say is too low, but it is comfortable for me and has ensured I can handle bad beats without going on tilt and chasing.   It has served me well for the last 2 years but now I keep getting the urge to try my hand at NL cash.

With that in mind I was going to use my STT bank roll to build a NL cash bankroll over the next few months, so I could give that a serious go.   Are you saying that 30 buy ins is what I should be looking at having?  Does anyone agree/disagree with that?  

I am a patient/tight/aggressive player and would also welcome advice on optimum number of players per table and whether the suggested bankroll allows for multi tabling.  

Also, all my books (other than the usual 'bibles' are on tournament strategy, can anyone recommend any good NL cash game books that have been released recently?

There is huge variance between what people say is an adequate bankroll for playing cash. I have seen people say 10 buy ins is enough and others say you should have 50 for NL, and 1,000 BBs for limit. I go on ~30 buyins for NL which has suited my game (tight/aggressive). I am sure some of the better cash players who play higher stakes than me could offer some better advice though.

By the way suzanne they might be finding it easy to stalk you as they have you on their buddy lists (assuming you are playing on a tribeca.) You can set it so only people on your buddy list can see what tables you are on by opening the buddy list, selecting options > privacy and choosing "Allow only users on my buddy list." This might not stop them but will at least make it harder for them and mean they have to go through all the tables to find you.

Are they intimidating you verbally or are they playing aggressively towards you aswell?

If it's the latter then you should be able to adjust your game to exploit this and give them a bit of a fleecing ;)

WOW some fantastic advise...THANK YOU very much to all who took the time to answer.

Junglecat, I must admit I don't really have the patience for cash. I only tried it one day as I went through a bad patch on stts. The 9 seaters I found VERY boring but the 6 seaters suits me to a tee. I have found if I play fishy to start with I can steal quite easily and then when I am caught out "Why did you call with that rubbish" I rock up and perhaps play one hand with a monster thus doubling/trebling up, so I then have some $$ to play properly. Perhaps this is why I "upset" people  :D

Obviously this can sometimes go disasterously wrong.

Good advice too about sussing out the other players and I really MUST start making notes on players.

The bullying and goading used to make me laugh and I can usually give as good as I get but its getting a bit annoying now. I will take your advice and switch off the chat if I feel myself getting annoyed and block people not on my buddy list (didn't know you could do this).

So thank you for the rambling a very good post indeed.

Bankroll....I am aware that I am playing outside of my bankroll on 50c/$1, I usually play 25c/50c so is this still too high with a bankroll of $400? The reason I am giving it a try is because I was advised by a friend to move up a stake as he considered me to be "good enough", he probably thought my bankroll was bigger though.

Keithy, your comments as always are much appreciated. As you say we have progressed at similar levels......to be continued

It really depends what your aims are to do with bankroll. It is a case of risk vs. reward. By playing stakes outside your bankroll the potential rewards are higher but you risk losing your whole roll. If this is your aim then you can play with much less than I recommended. The swings in cash tables can be savage though and a couple of bad beats in big pots can cost you a large proportion of your bankroll if you dont manage it adequately.

With $400 if you don't want to risk losing it you should really be playing much lower stakes, and only move up when you have a bigger roll. If you are a profitable cash table player then grinding it out at the lower stakes should enable you to move up reasonably soon.

Bankroll requirements really depend on the person, the type of game you play and your reason for playing. Varience can be controlled to some degree by the playing style you choose.

Somebody hit me over the head with a hammer........

ok this is the kind of manic play i am playing at the moment

Message from Space 8161373-63064 Holdem No Limit $0.50/$1
[Jun 1 03:15:22] : Hand Start.
[Jun 1 03:15:22] : Seat 1 : mattelynn has $52.50
[Jun 1 03:15:22] : Seat 2 : kp161 has $86.75
[Jun 1 03:15:22] : Seat 3 : zabbuddah has $10.75
[Jun 1 03:15:22] : Seat 4 : MissHoolie has $92.25
[Jun 1 03:15:22] : Seat 5 : The Angler has $179.50
[Jun 1 03:15:22] : Seat 6 : hamazriya has $197.31
[Jun 1 03:15:22] : MissHoolie is the dealer.
[Jun 1 03:15:22] : The Angler posted small blind.
[Jun 1 03:15:23] : hamazriya posted big blind.
[Jun 1 03:15:23] : Game [63064] started with 6 players.
[Jun 1 03:15:23] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jun 1 03:15:23] : Seat 4 : MissHoolie has Kh 8h
[Jun 1 03:15:25] : mattelynn folded.
[Jun 1 03:15:27] : kp161 folded.
[Jun 1 03:15:28] : zabbuddah folded.
[Jun 1 03:15:33] : MissHoolie called $1 and raised $4
[Jun 1 03:15:35] : The Angler folded.
[Jun 1 03:15:40] : hamazriya called $4 and raised $11
[Jun 1 03:15:43] : MissHoolie called $11
[Jun 1 03:15:43] : Dealing flop.
[Jun 1 03:15:43] : Board cards [Qs 7h Jc]
[Jun 1 03:15:47] : hamazriya bet $16
[Jun 1 03:15:53] : MissHoolie called $16
[Jun 1 03:15:53] : Dealing turn.
[Jun 1 03:15:53] : Board cards [Qs 7h Jc Kd]
[Jun 1 03:15:58] : hamazriya bet $25
[Jun 1 03:16:04] : MissHoolie called $25 and raised $35.25 and is All-in
[Jun 1 03:16:05] : hamazriya called $35.25
[Jun 1 03:16:06] : Showdown!
[Jun 1 03:16:06] : Seat 4 : MissHoolie has Kh 8h
[Jun 1 03:16:07] : Seat 4 : MissHoolie has Kh 8h
[Jun 1 03:16:07] : Seat 6 : hamazriya has 3h Ts
[Jun 1 03:16:12] : Board cards [Qs 7h Jc Kd 5c]
[Jun 1 03:16:12] : Seat 4 : MissHoolie has Kh 8h
[Jun 1 03:16:12] : MissHoolie has Pair: Kings
[Jun 1 03:16:12] : Seat 6 : hamazriya has 3h Ts
[Jun 1 03:16:12] : hamazriya has High Card : King
[Jun 1 03:16:13] : MissHoolie wins $182 with Pair: Kings
[Jun 1 03:16:22] : Hand is over

so then i won a couple of hands.........and dont forget ive got the hecklers on my back

Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
Message from Space 8161373-63077 Holdem No Limit $0.50/$1
[Jun 1 03:25:13] : Hand Start.
[Jun 1 03:25:13] : Seat 1 : mattelynn has $27.50
[Jun 1 03:25:13] : Seat 2 : kp161 has $133
[Jun 1 03:25:13] : Seat 3 : zabbuddah has $5.25
[Jun 1 03:25:13] : Seat 4 : MissHoolie has $206.50
[Jun 1 03:25:13] : Seat 5 : The Angler has $280.06
[Jun 1 03:25:13] : Seat 6 : hamazriya has $100
[Jun 1 03:25:13] : mattelynn is the dealer.
[Jun 1 03:25:13] : kp161 posted small blind.
[Jun 1 03:25:13] : zabbuddah posted big blind.
[Jun 1 03:25:15] : hamazriya posted big blind and dead small blind.
[Jun 1 03:25:15] : Game [63077] started with 6 players.
[Jun 1 03:25:15] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jun 1 03:25:15] : Seat 4 : MissHoolie has Ac Ks
[Jun 1 03:25:21] : MissHoolie : ??
[Jun 1 03:25:27] : MissHoolie called $1 and raised $4
[Jun 1 03:25:33] : The Angler folded.
[Jun 1 03:25:34] : hamazriya called $4
[Jun 1 03:25:34] : mattelynn folded.
[Jun 1 03:25:35] : kp161 folded.
[Jun 1 03:25:36] : zabbuddah called $4 and raised $0.25 and is All-in
[Jun 1 03:25:36] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect.
[Jun 1 03:25:51] : It's your turn.
[Jun 1 03:25:51] : MissHoolie has 10 seconds to respond.
[Jun 1 03:25:55] : MissHoolie called $0.25
[Jun 1 03:25:56] : hamazriya called $0.25
[Jun 1 03:25:57] : Dealing flop.
[Jun 1 03:25:57] : Board cards [As Jc 2c]
[Jun 1 03:26:03] : MissHoolie checked.
[Jun 1 03:26:05] : hamazriya bet $6
[Jun 1 03:26:15] : MissHoolie called $6
[Jun 1 03:26:15] : Dealing turn.
[Jun 1 03:26:15] : Board cards [As Jc 2c Qs]
[Jun 1 03:26:23] : MissHoolie : put your $$ cash where ur mouth is?
[Jun 1 03:26:28] : MissHoolie checked.
[Jun 1 03:26:29] : hamazriya bet $16
[Jun 1 03:26:31] : MissHoolie called $16
[Jun 1 03:26:32] : Dealing river.
[Jun 1 03:26:32] : Board cards [As Jc 2c Qs Jh]
[Jun 1 03:26:35] : MissHoolie checked.
[Jun 1 03:26:39] : hamazriya bet $40
[Jun 1 03:26:41] : MissHoolie called $40
[Jun 1 03:26:41] : Showdown!
[Jun 1 03:26:41] : Seat 4 : MissHoolie has Ac Ks
[Jun 1 03:26:43] : Seat 6 : hamazriya has 2d 2h
[Jun 1 03:26:43] : hamazriya has Full House : 2s full of Jacks
[Jun 1 03:26:44] : hamazriya wins $121.35 with Full House : 2s full of Jacks
[Jun 1 03:26:44] : Seat 3 : zabbuddah has 8c 7c
[Jun 1 03:26:44] : zabbuddah has Pair: Jacks
[Jun 1 03:26:44] : Seat 6 : hamazriya has 2d 2h
[Jun 1 03:26:44] : hamazriya has Full House : 2s full of Jacks
[Jun 1 03:26:44] : hamazriya wins $16.40 with Full House : 2s full of Jacks
[Jun 1 03:26:53] : Hand is over.

Did i play it wrong?

I dont think i did and if im wrong please advise

Im so annoyed coz i was up to 250 at one stage and lost half of it

I still left 80 up so not so bad

PS i need a reason to go to bed :-(

I think you need to turn the chat option off as it looks like it was getting to you in that final hand.

Anyway judging by the BPL you might make more money in NLHE SNGs etc.

I'm no cash game expert so others may well be able to offer better advice....... But to me i would say is it any wonder you have large variances in your game when you call preflop reraises with K8 suited then call a bet on Q-7-J rainbow flop?!?!? Exactly what are you calling with? granted your opponent has worse but you werent to know that at the time - if you are continuously making calls like this then its no surprise your bankroll goes  ;goodvevil;

The second one is just unlucky - you called a 50-50 shot and despite improving was never infront and given how your opponent plays you then find it hard to lay down a hand like top pair top kicker with an inside straight draw. I agree with Simon as well that you need to turn your chat off while playing as it is apparent that you become too emotional during play and it is at times of high emotion that our guard is at its lowest and mistakes creep in. And in poker more often it isnt my good play that makes me my profit its the fact that i can get my opponent to make more mistakes than me.

Of course i'm just an MTT monkey so i may be way of the mark.... ???

I agree with Matt.  The first hand was bonkers.  OK so you try to pick up the blinds off the button with a reasonable-ish hand in a 6-seater, but then the BB puts in a raise.  Have you made this move b4?  If so has he usually just folded?  If so, then I'm folding.  If you're certain he's a maniac then maybe see a flop, but look at it this way - you've just bet 10% of your cash preflop with K8 when you were just trying to pick up the blinds... now you start to see why volatility is high...  After that it all goes a bit crazy - why did you call the flop bet?  you're not even beating A high.  The fact that you end up winning it is irrelevant - this sort of play in the long run will lose you money.... i.m.o.

The second hand I think was fair play, given the maniac stuff he got up to before.  I'm not sure I could've got away from TPTK on that board - normally I would've led out on that board and bet strongly to avoid any flush / straight chasing, but it was probably sensible to keep it a little smaller with him betting with 3To in previous hands...

Hi Suzanne,

I'm certainly no expert but, for what's it's worth, here's what I would have done.

Hand 1.  Pre flop I would probably make a similar raise on the button.  I would have folded to the reraise though.  Presuming I had seen the flop, there is no way I would have called the $16 bet - you have no hand and no draw.

Hand 2.  I'd probably have bet out with my ace post flop with the two clubs out.  After that - I'd have struggled to get away from that hand too.

As others have said, I really think you need to turn off the chat - you need to be concentrating 100% on the game and not on the people that are trying to put you on tilt.

Really hope things pick up for you xx

I know some terrific tournament players who struggle in cash games and vice-versa.

Perhaps your game is more suited to tournaments where if you go on tilt your losses are limited.

Some great posts on here, especially from Jungle-cat.

I agree.


For heaven's sake turn the chat off, its tilting you.

ok, for what its worth here are my views.

The first hand is insane,  attacking blinds with a trash hand like k8 even 6 handed on the button is pointless especially against a manically aggressive player like Hamazriya.  As for calling the reraise , well you really need to ask why you are doing this ? If it's against a tight player who raises with big cards then calling with suited connectors to stack him off csn be a good play but it has to be against the right player. The call on the flop is almost unexplainable, even if you hit your K there is no gaurentee you are ahead , if you are calling for a backdoor flush then stop it cost too much long term.  You won the pot here but you did so after making error after error and this is not winning poker.

The second hand is a bit unlucky and Harmaziya looks a difficult player to read. The problem I have here is you only call through the hand , I think you need tio reraise the flop. Just calling all the way down here is not good you have not found out anything about his hand. Given the type of player you are against I think the money goes in anyway but at least a reraise on the flop will give you a better idea of where you stand and you can perhaps get away .Although after seeing what he tabled in the 1st hand it would be very very tough.

Just turn off the chat its doing you no favours

best of luck

jezza

I agree entirely...I should not have been in the first hand AT ALL but this guy had reraised every raise I had made and I was pretty sure he was bluffing through his back teeth. So I thought okay...lets see how far you will go. I was undoubtedly on tilt and was lucky to have won the hand but my thoughts were to make a stand.

After the first hand he tightened up a bit and I managed to steal a few blinds which is why I posted the 2nd hand.

I was pretty sure he actually had a hand which is why I felt I played this badly.

So...on the river was I wrong to call his $40 knowing that AQ AJ K10 any J or pp had me beat?

Keithy...lots of questions and where to start LOL

I dont actually use a tracker so I have no way of checking whether the down period was due to variance...it possible was but I feel it was probably down to bad play.

The stalkers are 2 guys/gals in particular and no I dont think they are in it together. One or the other always seems to sit at my table and rub me down. I have watched them at other tables and its how they play so its not just me they pick on. Fortunatly I have several accounts on tribeca and have managed to get a few bob back, I might reveal who I am one day after I have taken a huge pot from one of them  :D

1.   Are you too impatient to be involved in hands when playing cash games after STT’s?
      No I dont think so, but then I always play cash before bed after playing STT's. Maybe I should try cash first.
2.   Do you let other player’s negative comments affect your game?
      Yes
3.   Are other players able to tell that their comment’s have affected your gameplay/confidence?
      Probably  ::)
4.   Does your current overall bankroll situation affect your gameplay?
      No I wouldnt say it does, I can play confidently at 50/1 though I am aware a few bad nights could see me go bust which obviously would be a bummer but this does not effect my gameplay.
5.   Do you look at hand histories and evaluate your play in the big cash pots (wins and losses)?
      Yes, before I play most evenings I study my hand history and try to learn from my mistakes

 Last night with all your advice on board  I sat at a 9 seater 25/50c with the chat OFF thinking play tight. I waited for premium hands and I have never been more BORED in my life.

So im thinking if I am going to play at this level within my bankroll then I will need to learn to multi table...is this hard to do?

I know you can change the screen settings but im not sure how, I tried it once and the screen went all fuzzy. What should I change it to so I can see 2 tables?

Thanks again for all the GREAT advise.

Suzanne,

I multi table regularly and I've only got a 15" screen!  If you're only playing 2 tables and only playing premium hands you should find it a doddle.  Why not have a go at some play money tables or something just to get used to switching between the two?

Good luck! :)

a) 2 tables is fine on a standard monitor

b) with respect, low level cash is a grind. Playing solid poker to win consistently is about disicipline, temperament, concentration and focus. Boredom is good, its a sign that you have a good chance of winning.

If you are going to be easily bored playing solid poker they may not be right for you. It sounds like you'd prefer tournaments/sit n goes.

Fluctuations like this are just part of the game, you just have to get used to them. If you don't, then you're in trouble and are gonna find yourself getting het up about something that may well be luck related. If you can't, then the cash table really isn't the place for you.

What you mustn't do is assume that your game is top notch. If you're losing consistently, then readdress your game and try and find out where you're going wrong.


Just ignore the stalking. If you find this difficult, then either turn the chatbox off when they are at your table, or try a different site. If it's blondepokerleague, then ask Aaron 'The Baron' to keep an eye on them to make sure they're not overstepping the mark.

If they're stalking with the intent to clean you out rather than goad you, then there isn't much you can do except try and avoid them (assuming that they are sharks that is).

To be honest though, unless there's a bunch of them, I can't really see this being too much of a problem on a ten handed table.


This was a bad idea. You clearly weren't comfortable with the move. If anything, you should have moved down and then worked your way back up once you regained your confidence and began to see consistent profits.

If they are bullying you into playing iffy hands, then you have no one to blame but yourself. In the end, they can't make you press any buttons. Focus, play your own game, and don't let them get to you.

If they are slagging you off, then report their asses and aim to get them banned.


Yes, your confidence is down, and I doubt you're in the correct frame of mind when you sit down. Starting a session thinking you're going to lose is probably the best way towards actually losing.

Take a rest period. Read some books, scour the blonde basement for advice, ask people what they think, watch poker night live for tips, text people questions... just do whatever you can to improve your game, and, once you feel it has improved, go back and try again.. hopefully refreshed and rejuvinated.

Good luck

I just thought:

It's no good making a stand by calling.

OK the new question is.........do i need to go to GA?

I have sat with $20 and beeze and I have have basically cleaned up for a bit......im ready for bed and challenge him to an allin preflop...he declines.....I know...chat is back on and im still playing 50/1...sorry


Coming To America 8161617-49413 Holdem No Limit $0.50/$1
[Jun 3 04:42:02] : Hand Start.
[Jun 3 04:42:02] : Seat 1 : MissHoolie has $83.25
[Jun 3 04:42:02] : Seat 2 : rhop83 has $44.75
[Jun 3 04:42:02] : Seat 3 : action189 has $65.24
[Jun 3 04:42:02] : Seat 4 : beezelbub has $110.10
[Jun 3 04:42:02] : Seat 5 : wjc6520 has $21.25
[Jun 3 04:42:02] : Seat 6 : thecase21 has $18.50
[Jun 3 04:42:02] : wjc6520 is the dealer.
[Jun 3 04:42:02] : thecase21 posted small blind.
[Jun 3 04:42:03] : MissHoolie posted big blind.
[Jun 3 04:42:03] : Game [49413] started with 5 players.
[Jun 3 04:42:03] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jun 3 04:42:03] : Seat 1 : MissHoolie has 2d Ts
[Jun 3 04:42:05] : rhop83 folded.
[Jun 3 04:42:10] : beezelbub called $1
[Jun 3 04:42:12] : wjc6520 called $1
[Jun 3 04:42:15] : beezelbub : ur 1 tuf cookie!
[Jun 3 04:42:16] : thecase21 called $0.50
[Jun 3 04:42:16] : MissHoolie : im bored
[Jun 3 04:42:19] : MissHoolie checked.
[Jun 3 04:42:19] : Dealing flop.
[Jun 3 04:42:19] : Board cards [8s Tc 2h]
[Jun 3 04:42:21] : thecase21 checked.
[Jun 3 04:42:25] : MissHoolie bet $4
[Jun 3 04:42:30] : MissHoolie : go on
[Jun 3 04:42:31] : beezelbub called $4 and raised $105.10 and is All-in
[Jun 3 04:42:31] : wjc6520 folded.
[Jun 3 04:42:36] : thecase21 folded.
[Jun 3 04:42:42] : MissHoolie : oooooooooooooooo
[Jun 3 04:42:48] : MissHoolie called $78.25 and is All-in
[Jun 3 04:42:48] : beezelbub : heres ur chance
[Jun 3 04:42:48] : Showdown!
[Jun 3 04:42:48] : Seat 1 : MissHoolie has 2d Ts
[Jun 3 04:42:50] : Seat 1 : MissHoolie has 2d Ts
[Jun 3 04:42:50] : Seat 4 : beezelbub has 2s Th
[Jun 3 04:42:57] : Board cards [8s Tc 2h 3c Qh]
[Jun 3 04:42:57] : Seat 4 : beezelbub has 2s Th
[Jun 3 04:42:57] : beezelbub has Two Pair: 10s and 2s
[Jun 3 04:42:57] : Seat 1 : MissHoolie has 2d Ts
[Jun 3 04:42:57] : MissHoolie has Two Pair: 10s and 2s
[Jun 3 04:42:57] : beezelbub ties $82.75 with Two Pair: 10s and 2s
[Jun 3 04:42:57] : MissHoolie ties $82.75 with Two Pair: 10s and 2s
[Jun 3 04:42:57] : MissHoolie : pmsl
[Jun 3 04:43:01] : beezelbub : unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!
[Jun 3 04:43:06] : Hand is over.

Do I need help LOL

The problem is I have got kinda hooked on this car crash kinda game....I know it will all tumble 1 day but for the moment im winning. The true test will be seeing the signs and putting the brakes on when it happens.

Im hoping and think I can.

Suzanne,

I think the question here is how you would have felt if you'd lost that hand?  If you're happy to gamble (and lose) the $80+ dollars you've accumulated, then all well and good.  If, however, you're continuing to play with a few to winning then I don't think this was a good move.

Ultimately, if the rush of making big bets and gambling is what you enjoy, and you can afford it, then go ahead!!!

Claire

Suzanne, what are you doing?

Seriously grinding cash games are not for you I think, please change or try sngs for example before you lose your dough.

Or else sit down in a game I'm in.

Ta

Actually that's a great idea, then you will have the money to enable you to play that style :D

Suze , the question is why do you play poker ? If its for the buzz and rush then fantastic but if you are playing to win then you need to be careful . If Beeze turns over 99, or 10, 9 on that hand how do you feel ?

I'd imagine she would feel great winning the pot rather than chopping it :D

Suzanne

I'm disheartened that all this cracking advice you've been receiving is falling on deaf ears.

It seems to me you are just in to gamble ($20 on a .5-1 game) if you want to just get invoved then play 6 handed sng's or hu sng's

Exactly, the style you want to play seems far more suited to sngs rather than cash, they take less time, are less of a grind and you can create a lot of action around the bubble and people will pass to you!

Trust me snoopy I am taking all this advice in and it is very much appreciated.

Tighty SNGs is what I play, usually $5/$10 extended as I have found this is where i play best and I do reasonable well on them. I am considering moving up but im sure I'm good enough yet.

As Keithy pointed out, I play for fun and the fact that I no longer need to deposit is good enough for me.

I only tried cash when I went through a bad patch on STTs starting of at the micro tables which I thought were very hard and gradually moving up. The higher stakes I went the fishier the players got and I found it quite easy to cash playing ABC but I found it boring...still it served its purpose and topped up my bankroll.

I moved up to 50c/1 and I have found this is the level I feel most comfortable at but as has been pointed out it is a bit high for my bankroll. So what I have been doing is playing 25/50 sitting with $20 playing tight till ive trebled up and then moving up to 50/1 and playing manic with an all or nothing attitude. The buzz is GREAT.


Ok... because I am playing with money I have won earlier with the intention of either winning a reasonable sum or going bust and I limit myself to $60 each night (once $80) so in essence I would at worse be $20 down.

Can i please add that this not my "normal" play and is just a bit of fun before I go to bed.

My original post was because some players are taking offence to this kind of play and I thought maybe I should stop.

Since getting all this excellent advice I am now considering whether I should concentrate more on cash and perhaps try to make some money out of the game but im just not sure I have the patience or if I want to take the fun factor out of it.

EH?

We both had 2 pair on the flop...10 2  LOL

99 and 10-9 would only make one smaller pair, hence a loser.

Board; 8 10 2 3 Q


So she would of won with 2 pair

Jezza you should have gone to Specsavers mate  :D 

oh cripes ,  :blonde:    . Thats taking lessond from TK for you! Bit of a missread there. ummm so if he tables 88 or 8, 10 , how do you feel is what I should have said!!

LOL suze absolutley , I had to look really close to see it was an 8  . I've told myself that my mind was playing tricks cos I was convinced it was a 9!

Wipes the tears from my eyes  :D

Ok...being serious...yes he/she MIGHT have had 10 8 or 88 or any pp hoping to hit in which case I am drawing but in a 6 seat cash game with only 1 guy fishing I thought I was in front.

I thought it was worth the gamble...what are the pot odds here?

oh I have no problem with the call at all. In fact other than the 1st hand I don't think you played anything badly . The board isnt flushing , there is some str8 potential but not very much danger , even if he has limped with AA you've outflopped him. My point was to question your motivation for playing the game, and it seems that you are having fun with it and that is perfect really . If you are happy to have fun with the game and it not cost you any more than your origional deposit then really you should play what you like. Worrying too much about bankroll considerations, making player notes, tracking results  and all of that stuff really takes the shine off the game .

I had the great pleasure of playing flushy and junglecat in a $5 extended tonight along with several other blondes...would appreciate a feedback from all of you about my play and as to whether I should move up in stake.

I have to admit I played tighter than normal and maybe stole 3rd place from Nakor....short stacked and wait for 2nd short stack to move in which he did  LOL

Well i would keep hitting runner flushes vs me!!!  ;goodvevil;

Tbh i dont know, i was too busy trying to decamilse evreyones stack!

Thought you played well suzanne and I enjoyed the game with you claw sark nakor and all the other blondes. Apologies to everyone I outdrew!

You were unlucky that basically the deck smacked me and I had position on you so you kept running into me with hands, chips and position... a bad combo!

In general it's fairly easy to do well in stts...there's a lot of bad players, especially in the extended level comps. You have a lot of time to get your chips in with big edges in these comps. If i'm playing properly i dont get involved with marginal hands till the later levels when if i play them I'll generally be raising them.

Depending on what your bankroll is I would suggest continue playing at the level you are used to, and once you get a good solid string of results, move up a level and repeat.

Tank and Wardonkey are the real experts on this sort of thing....I think Tank had a pyramid system for stts set up before, I'm sure they've got some good advice to offer

As was predicted.............say no more.

I deserved that