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Title: England Goalkeepers and the World Cup
Post by: Tinsel Town on June 10, 2006, 12:52:13 PM
In my opinion goalkeepers have cost England
in the world cup. There seems to be too much loyalty

In 1970 England were cruising in the Quarter Final against the Germans.
Then Up stepped Peter Bonetti.

In 1990 a younger and fitter goalkeeper than Peter Shilton would have
got to that deflection off Paul Parker

In 2002 a younger and fitter goalkeeper would have saved Ronaldinho's wonder
'shot' .
Therefore, imho goalkeepers have caused England at least one ,maybe two, World
Cup Final appearances.
The press seems to be concentrating on Rooney, Owen, Lampard and Gerard.
What about the goalie... Robinson? He does not seem to have big big game experience.
A weak link in my opinion.

Anyway, just an observation.

Good luck!!
 Td Th


Title: Re: England Goalkeepers and the World Cup
Post by: matt674 on June 10, 2006, 01:09:15 PM
Its either him or Calamity James..............


Title: Re: England Goalkeepers and the World Cup
Post by: Rooky9 on June 10, 2006, 01:16:06 PM
Couldn't disagree more...

He is by far the best English keeper and an unbelievable shot stopper (the save against Wales springs to mind). He will be in the top four or five in the competition, and with the ball there are using, a goalkeeper of any class can be made to look stupid on any given occation.


Title: Re: England Goalkeepers and the World Cup
Post by: thediceman on June 10, 2006, 09:06:44 PM
In my opinion goalkeepers have cost England
in the world cup. There seems to be too much loyalty

In 1970 England were cruising in the Quarter Final against the Germans.
Then Up stepped Peter Bonetti.

In 1990 a younger and fitter goalkeeper than Peter Shilton would have
got to that deflection off Paul Parker

In 2002 a younger and fitter goalkeeper would have saved Ronaldinho's wonder
'shot' .
Therefore, imho goalkeepers have caused England at least one ,maybe two, World
Cup Final appearances.
The press seems to be concentrating on Rooney, Owen, Lampard and Gerard.
What about the goalie... Robinson? He does not seem to have big big game experience.
A weak link in my opinion.

Anyway, just an observation.

Good luck!!
 Td Th

The defining moment in 1970 was the substitution of Bobby Charlton and nothing to do with goal keeping errors. Granted any team would prefer to have Gordon Banks but as he was unable to play due to food poisoning it meant we had to have Peter Bonetti. I don't believe he was at fault for any of the three goals.

Re: 1990. Was Peter shilton really in a bad starting position for the free kick, probably not. Was he slow in getting back, I believe not. The fact is that free kick took such a looping deflection that I doubt any keeper would have saved it.

Re: 2002. Was Seaman in a bad starting position. Possibily yes. That was his error, not the fact he was slow in getting back. Given the choice of an ageing David Seaman and a younger fitter David James it's a no brainer, give me the old man ever time.

Dodgy goals and bad ref's have been a bigger problem rather than bad goalkeepers. IMO